DDoS Round 12

[Mrtinkles]

Perhaps its not about how to defense against ddos? is there a chance that we are the bad guys?

I went download capybara today, and i found my old twow asia server account is still there, and my mage with t3 set is still there lol.

if digging into technical way can't protect the server, perhaps octowow owners should consider business methods, afterall private server is not really a charity server but another profitable business act, and you want to have a peaceful environment when u r trying to grow a business. and this community is everything for octowow. please dont let your fans down.

oh and btw, its so obvious capybara owns or has some sort of business relation to ravencraft. after blizzard took turtle wow to california court, turtle wow EU is shut down and forever gone with its codes and player database. capybara is turtle wow asia server and is the only one who has the latest turtle wow codes, and its so obvious its capybara who's behind the ddos atk on octowow for its EU franchise server ravencraft. Question is, who attack first? by default we think they attacked us, but is it really? could it be a chance that we attack them first?

why do you wanna allow chinese to be able download octowow in chinese client with fully addons pre-installed? while capybara is only designed for chinese wow gamers, the only language there is chinese? if i am the owner of capybara, i would see octowow chinese game client as an act of war. get it? regardless how cheap or expansive the ddos attack is, capybara has a population 5 folds octowow, do you really wanna take the chance of hurting your EU gamer community go to war with them for chinese donations?

Your old account only exists because it was a twow asia server account. Capy only restored accounts for that twow region because that's the only database they had access to. Everyone else has to start fresh, even on Capy.

Regarding the notion that offering the chinese client is an act of war is kind of silly. What if Octo is just trying to be considerate to people who live in NA/EU and speak chinese as a first language?

It'd be different if Octo created an SEA server for people to play on. But they didn't. However... some people believe, with decent evidence, that Capy set up Ravencraft to get the EU market. If that's true, then who's the greedy bad guy in that scenario?

because a california court can not rule over chinese servers lol.

and your what if for the chinese speaking communities in NA/EU, log onto your game and type /join china, and download your chinese fonts and then you will realise you can only type chinese letters in china channel but not in world channel

by this logic, u wanna have your traffic signs in italy with chinese subtitles lmao.

do you even know why turtle created asia server back then? it is to GET THE CHINESE SPEAKING only GAMERS OFF OF EU SERVER. when chinese dominate your EU server, you dont have a server for your own community anymore. raise your hand if you ever visit a chinatown; and no, turtle wow EU owners didnt run its asia server directly, its a franchise server in asia for chinese gamers, just like blizzard or any foreign business can not enter china without a local joint venture.

Ok - you went all over the place here. I'll just stand by my comment that offering the Chinese client isn't an act of war. Octo opening an SEA server would be and they haven't done that.

I'll stand by my second comment that if Raven is actually owned by Capy - then they are the ones who are coming off as the greedy bad guys.

[Aalonel]

Is there any time frame when you are supossed to fix so server runs normaly again ?

Fuck knows at this point. They were saying Monday for the last week and now Monday has come and gone and now no update.

tbf. They ask floki for ETA on whens the new server is installed and data migrated. Floki asks the onsite data center staff when shit is done. Data center staff gives some vague ETA. Octo gies it to us because they dont have any other information and get increasingly desperate aswell (community wont stand forever). So yeah...

Isn’t it the same as with any service that provides services — there’s no exact SLA? What does it mean that Floki can’t provide clear deadlines for a solution?

[Bigmike001]

The attacker is either from US/CA, because of the attack time frame. Or he/she/they are targeting the US/CA time frame intentionally.

from indonesia, with real IPs

fyi, if ur getting attacked from a south america country, then its really the americans are attacking you; attacks from indonesia, then its the chinese are running it lol. anyone who's into intl business would know this. chinese business has been pouring its investments into indonesia

[Revisions]

More attacks coming in early today. No updates.

Is there any time frame when you are supossed to fix so server runs normaly again ?

We been waiting 3 weeks for it to be fixed, so no, no timeline

[Bigmike001]

Your old account only exists because it was a twow asia server account. Capy only restored accounts for that twow region because that's the only database they had access to. Everyone else has to start fresh, even on Capy.

Regarding the notion that offering the chinese client is an act of war is kind of silly. What if Octo is just trying to be considerate to people who live in NA/EU and speak chinese as a first language?

It'd be different if Octo created an SEA server for people to play on. But they didn't. However... some people believe, with decent evidence, that Capy set up Ravencraft to get the EU market. If that's true, then who's the greedy bad guy in that scenario?

because a california court can not rule over chinese servers lol.

and your what if for the chinese speaking communities in NA/EU, log onto your game and type /join china, and download your chinese fonts and then you will realise you can only type chinese letters in china channel but not in world channel

by this logic, u wanna have your traffic signs in italy with chinese subtitles lmao.

do you even know why turtle created asia server back then? it is to GET THE CHINESE SPEAKING only GAMERS OFF OF EU SERVER. when chinese dominate your EU server, you dont have a server for your own community anymore. raise your hand if you ever visit a chinatown; and no, turtle wow EU owners didnt run its asia server directly, its a franchise server in asia for chinese gamers, just like blizzard or any foreign business can not enter china without a local joint venture.

Ok - you went all over the place here. I'll just stand by my comment that offering the Chinese client isn't an act of war. Octo opening an SEA server would be and they haven't done that.

I'll stand by my second comment that if Raven is actually owned by Capy - then they are the ones who are coming off as the greedy bad guys.

reach out to them wouldnt hurt

[Ramune]

coz another crash

There are no server crashes at all, if you type .s info in the game, you'll see that the server's uptime is 5 days. So, all these connection issues are caused by ddos attacks but not server crashes. The server is stable per se.

[Tachikoma]

This has been the longest I have not been able to get online for.
I will check again tomorrow evening. Good luck boys!

[Mrtinkles]

coz another crash

There are no server crashes at all, if you type .s info in the game, you'll see that the server's uptime is 5 days. So, all these connection issues are caused by ddos attacks but not server crashes. The server is stable per se.

Correct! My understanding is that the attacks are hitting their TCP Proxy and that's what's failing now. Octo can only do so much at this point. It's up to the TCP Proxy and FlockiNet to follow through on whatever protections Octo purchased from them.

[Defiant]

The attacker is either from US/CA, because of the attack time frame. Or he/she/they are targeting the US/CA time frame intentionally.

They're not targeting NA, that much is certain. The downtimes are primarily during Europes mid afternoon to evening, while it's primarily down during the morning and early afternoon in NA.

What they're targeting isn't even a region though, they're just targeting our peak population time. It's generally always around noon West Coast that the server has peak population. The attacks last eight hours, and our peak population is dead center in those eight hours.

But yeah as an NA player it really doesn't impact me all that much. It impacts the East Coast a bit more than the West Coast, but it impacts Europe significantly more. I can play during my evenings no problem.

[Chasca]

Today has definitely been the worst I've experienced so far. Only minutes of gameplay for each hour of inaccessibility. It's a shame, I really enjoy this server. Luckily haven't died yet even with these troubles though haha.