GM Malpractice, The Hand of Ragnaros, and Meatgrinder

[Gildark]

Secondly, if our guild had taken part in this scheme wholeheartedly, we would never have let this incident get reported in the first place

Boasting that if you did try to exploit you wouldn't be caught in this situation is WILD. I know there might be some what of a language barrier here but an even bigger morality barrier.

[Heibai]

Secondly, if our guild had taken part in this scheme wholeheartedly, we would never have let this incident get reported in the first place

Boasting that if you did try to exploit you wouldn't be caught in this situation is WILD. I know there might be some what of a language barrier here but an even bigger morality barrier.

I was only using a metaphor, yet what I said holds true. People would show off obtaining a great item fairly, but no one would boast about stealing something. We will never admit to deeds we did not commit; we own up to our mistakes if we are at fault, and deny them firmly if we are innocent. You have no authority to decide whether we get to stay on this server or not. Are your judgments truly reliable if you base them merely on a figure of speech? Do not drag this into questions of morality, for you yourself fail to uphold such standards.

[Gildark]

I was only using a metaphor, yet what I said holds true. People would show off obtaining a great item fairly, but no one would boast about stealing something. We will never admit to deeds we did not commit; we own up to our mistakes if we are at fault, and deny them firmly if we are innocent. You have no authority to decide whether we get to stay on this server or not. Are your judgments truly reliable if you base them merely on a figure of speech? Do not drag this into questions of morality, for you yourself fail to uphold such standards.

That's a pretty horrible metaphor my friend and won't give you any favor with the community. I, individually don't hold any power if you stay or not, but in this current situation that same community definitely does. You're metaphorically walking on cactus needles right now, saying that if you wanted to exploit you'd never get caught is jumping into a cactus field.

What standards of morality do I fail to uphold exactly?

[Heibai]

I was only using a metaphor, yet what I said holds true. People would show off obtaining a great item fairly, but no one would boast about stealing something. We will never admit to deeds we did not commit; we own up to our mistakes if we are at fault, and deny them firmly if we are innocent. You have no authority to decide whether we get to stay on this server or not. Are your judgments truly reliable if you base them merely on a figure of speech? Do not drag this into questions of morality, for you yourself fail to uphold such standards.

That's a pretty horrible metaphor my friend and won't give you any favor with the community. I, individually don't hold any power if you stay or not, but in this current situation that same community definitely does. You're metaphorically walking on cactus needles right now, saying that if you wanted to exploit you'd never get caught is jumping into a cactus field.

What standards of morality do I fail to uphold exactly?

It may be an issue with how I phrased myself earlier. All I want to state clearly is that we have not committed the acts we’re being accused of. Please try to understand how it feels to be falsely slandered. I trust the GM team will deliver a fair and impartial verdict for the PANDA guild.

[Heibai]

I was only using a metaphor, yet what I said holds true. People would show off obtaining a great item fairly, but no one would boast about stealing something. We will never admit to deeds we did not commit; we own up to our mistakes if we are at fault, and deny them firmly if we are innocent. You have no authority to decide whether we get to stay on this server or not. Are your judgments truly reliable if you base them merely on a figure of speech? Do not drag this into questions of morality, for you yourself fail to uphold such standards.

That's a pretty horrible metaphor my friend and won't give you any favor with the community. I, individually don't hold any power if you stay or not, but in this current situation that same community definitely does. You're metaphorically walking on cactus needles right now, saying that if you wanted to exploit you'd never get caught is jumping into a cactus field.

What standards of morality do I fail to uphold exactly?

We have long endured plenty of gossip and slander, with conflicts arising from raid progression, team composition, and even differences in nationality. This incident has undoubtedly added insult to injury to our already tough situation. Yet we firmly believe the truth will eventually come to light. We will take responsibility for any genuine mistakes we have made, but we will never admit to false accusations, and we will never compromise our integrity and principles.

[Gildark]

It may be an issue with how I phrased myself earlier. All I want to state clearly is that we have not committed the acts we’re being accused of. Please try to understand how it feels to be falsely slandered. I trust the GM team will deliver a fair and impartial verdict for the PANDA guild.

I know this server is out for blood and that puts you in a tight spot. I don't think your entire guild should be punished.

Personally in all fairness if it was my decision, I believe all parties that received any items of value without immediately reporting it(as far as we know none of them did), should have their characters permanently activated into Hardcore and Warmode mode with no access to trade, mail, or option of resurrection.

Anyone else even slightly complicit should receive the 7 day ban.

[Heibai]

It may be an issue with how I phrased myself earlier. All I want to state clearly is that we have not committed the acts we’re being accused of. Please try to understand how it feels to be falsely slandered. I trust the GM team will deliver a fair and impartial verdict for the PANDA guild.

I know this server is out for blood and that puts you in a tight spot. I don't think your entire guild should be punished.

Personally in all fairness if it was my decision, I believe all parties that received any items of value without immediately reporting it(as far as we know none of them did), should have their characters permanently activated into Hardcore and Warmode mode with no access to trade, mail, or option of resurrection.

Anyone else even slightly complicit should receive the 7 day ban.

We will wait for the GM team to finalize specific punishments. They will deliver a reasonable and fair judgment on this whole matter. On behalf of the PANDA guild, I would like to apologize to everyone once again.
The reason we failed to report this promptly was based on what we were told at first: after the guild provided all available materials for him, he personally bought whatever supplies were still missing, so we did not dig deeper into the details. It was only after the weapon was confiscated that the guild reviewed the whole process and realized it was impossible to craft under normal circumstances. You can verify this with every member who took part in our raid activities. At first we simply thought he had spent extra gold to cover the gap, yet we later found out even large amounts of gold could not account for how quickly it was completed.

[Sludi]

read between the lines: PANDA accepts anyone. everyone in PANDA is family. PANDA will defend its members until a GM intervenes.

= PANDA will accept and protect scumbags and thieves as long as it benefits the guild, until GMs intervene themselves.

[Heibai]

read between the lines: PANDA accepts anyone. everyone in PANDA is family. PANDA will defend its members until a GM intervenes.

= PANDA will accept and protect scumbags and thieves as long as it benefits the guild, until GMs intervene themselves.

Of course we stand by members who haven’t done anything wrong, yet we will never shield anyone who is truly at fault. Please do not twist our words, thank you.

[Howiedodat]

This is EXACTLY why I created an account and never logged in. I could see the corruption and lack of common sense from miles away. I myself applied for a GM position; I am a professional. I have a background in IT, mostly server admin stuff.

I also have run small sales teams and have tons of experience dealing with people in general. They opted to onboard someone who can barely put 2 coherent sentences together in English and cheats within days for a friend.


The integrity of this server is already hanging by a thread without things like this, but this just further proves this server has little future or life ahead of it. It will be riddled with favoritism and corruption, followed by nonsense decisions by the devs, like hiring this person in the first place.

7 day ban for helping a player produce one of the best weps in the game and blantly cheating to do it, then conspiring to hide it and lie about it..yea lets keep him as part of the community, I can totally see why he got a slap on the wrist and was hired.