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Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:15 pm

Fatbear wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 6:59 pm

Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 6:57 pm I don't seem to understand the purpose here in that case. Do you not accept a villainous role as the twink in a bracket? I know back in 2006 when I made twinks, I knew I was behaving in an unwashed manner. Why do you demand respect from the people you are, effectively, cyber bullying?

Can you help me understand what you want out of this thread/conversation? There's obviously not enough of a population of twinks that will play BGs with you in a specialized queue(even across both servers), and I highly doubt any server level action is going to be taken against/for twinks, so what are these threads even about? Are we all just letting off steam on the forums?

Before we go further, just to be clear, you don't play low level BGs right? So you don't actually know the regular's I see every day, you've got no first hand experience of queue times or what the 30-39 bracket is like?

Deflection? I'm really trying my hardest to engage you earnestly, but you aren't making this easy. How about you answer my question first as a show of good faith

Fatbear wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:26 pm

Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:15 pm

Fatbear wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 6:59 pm

Before we go further, just to be clear, you don't play low level BGs right? So you don't actually know the regular's I see every day, you've got no first hand experience of queue times or what the 30-39 bracket is like?

Deflection? I'm really trying my hardest to engage you earnestly, but you aren't making this easy. How about you answer my question first as a show of good faith

So that's for sure a no, you don't actually play low level BGs.

So this was the point of my original post:

"I've been reading some version of "Twinks ruin pvp" for about two decades now, and just wanted to share my experience playing here on Octo and on TWOW specifically.

On both servers I play a 39 night elf feral druid. On both servers I have/had no characters higher than level 39.

On TWOW with full buffs (booze, food, elixirs, zg world buff, dmf stam buff, 60 priest stam, 60 druid motw, kings) I was able to get over 8k HP in bear form. So far on Octo I've made it up to 7.79k HP.

My gear on both is amazing for the level. I have all my professions 300/300. I fish, herb and chop trees in high level areas (55-60) on my level 39, and the profits from doing so bankroll the operation.

My point being, anyone can twink. You don't need a level 60 farming gold for you to be able to do it. Which to me means when I hear, "twinking ruins pvp!" that just translates to "people who take the time to get the best gear and enchants are better than players who CHOOSE not to do that!" which isn't a very hot take.

If you wanna queue 30-39 BGs at lvl 31 with 800 HP, it's not my fault you're not having a good time.

Maybe instead of trying to entice the dev's to do something to stop twinking (what would this even mean?? anyone with good gear just can't queue or something?), turn off XP at 39 (or whichever bracket you want to play) and take a few days acquiring best in slot gear and enchanting it. Might take you a week or so and then you'll be having way more fun in BGs and contributing to a way more fun and competitive bracket."

It's pretty easy to understand. I am here responding to the claim the twinks ruin pvp by suggesting it doesn't have to ruin pvp because anyone can twink, it's an easy thing to do, I got all the things I have now in very little time with very little effort compared to many other aspects of the game.

And if what I'm doing is "cyberbulling" (jesus fucking christ...) then they are crybulling. They've all been insulting since the get go, ignoring my arguments and lying about what I have in fact said, and attributing the worst intentions to what I do.

Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:33 pm

Fatbear wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:26 pm

Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:15 pm

Deflection? I'm really trying my hardest to engage you earnestly, but you aren't making this easy. How about you answer my question first as a show of good faith

So that's for sure a no, you don't actually play low level BGs.

So this was the point of my original post:

"I've been reading some version of "Twinks ruin pvp" for about two decades now, and just wanted to share my experience playing here on Octo and on TWOW specifically.

On both servers I play a 39 night elf feral druid. On both servers I have/had no characters higher than level 39.

On TWOW with full buffs (booze, food, elixirs, zg world buff, dmf stam buff, 60 priest stam, 60 druid motw, kings) I was able to get over 8k HP in bear form. So far on Octo I've made it up to 7.79k HP.

My gear on both is amazing for the level. I have all my professions 300/300. I fish, herb and chop trees in high level areas (55-60) on my level 39, and the profits from doing so bankroll the operation.

My point being, anyone can twink. You don't need a level 60 farming gold for you to be able to do it. Which to me means when I hear, "twinking ruins pvp!" that just translates to "people who take the time to get the best gear and enchants are better than players who CHOOSE not to do that!" which isn't a very hot take.

If you wanna queue 30-39 BGs at lvl 31 with 800 HP, it's not my fault you're not having a good time.

Maybe instead of trying to entice the dev's to do something to stop twinking (what would this even mean?? anyone with good gear just can't queue or something?), turn off XP at 39 (or whichever bracket you want to play) and take a few days acquiring best in slot gear and enchanting it. Might take you a week or so and then you'll be having way more fun in BGs and contributing to a way more fun and competitive bracket."

It's pretty easy to understand. I am here responding to the claim the twinks ruin pvp by suggesting it doesn't have to ruin pvp because anyone can twink, it's an easy thing to do, I got all the things I have now in very little time with very little effort compared to many other aspects of the game.

And if what I'm doing is "cyberbulling" (jesus fucking christ...) then they are crybulling. They've all been insulting since the get go, ignoring my arguments and lying about what I have in fact said, and attributing the worst intentions to what I do.

Alright dude, I'm done being nice with you. It's not easy to understand, because you're 1 step above illiterate and making it everyone else's problem. I was trying to ask you to rephrase what you said because it's an emotional, jumbled mess that has literally zero point behind it. You want to defend your behavior as something anyone can do. Yes, anyone can spend hours twinking up for a bg bracket they plan on spending maybe 1 week in. This is not some magical bullet of a point that makes everyone else have to stop making fun of you. You're behaving like you're owed a community that enjoys playing 39 bgs with you.

TLDR: You're mad that they're mad? Holy shit stop grandstanding and acting like you're better than everyone else.

Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:44 pm Completely illiterate. Reads 2 sentences someone else posts, quotes his entire wall of text, and expects anyone to give a fuck about what he's saying.

Wizzle wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 7:44 pm Completely illiterate. Reads 2 sentences someone else posts, quotes his entire wall of text, and expects anyone to give a fuck about what he's saying.