Cross Realm Battlegrounds

[Knifewrench]

Yeah, regarding class prevalence/popularity.

Regardless of balance/performance, class prevalence can be influenced without changing class balance, by improving class fantasy and/or improve ability rotation or class toolkit.

Of course, that's not too say class prevalence is not because of class imbalance.

(when I write class, read: class/spec)

I wasn’t talking about class prevalence, I was talking about class distribution across factions.
Alliance has a lot more hunters and priests and horde has a lot more warlocks for example

is afkling and throwintowel also classes on pve server? it seems the def majority of players.

[Rold]

Kestrel, Archer, thanks for the cross-faction BG! Can't thank you enough!

A true joint operation between Voron and Third Echelon!

[Defiant]

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with cross‑faction players? No.

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with two hour long queues and a dead open world? No.

[Judgersj]

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with cross‑faction players? No.

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with two hour long queues and a dead open world? No.

So, you, a player from a PvE server, know better what the queues are like on a PvP server, right? I’m from a PvP server and I’ve never waited longer than 30–40 minutes for a BG.

[Joeblack]

So, you, a player from a PvE server, know better what the queues are like on a PvP server, right? I’m from a PvP server and I’ve never waited longer than 30–40 minutes for a BG.

im from the pvp server and cross realm BG's is the best thing that ever happened
who the fuck prefers 30-40 min q vs almost instant pop?

[Defiant]

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with cross‑faction players? No.

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with two hour long queues and a dead open world? No.

So, you, a player from a PvE server, know better what the queues are like on a PvP server, right? I’m from a PvP server and I’ve never waited longer than 30–40 minutes for a BG.

And what were they two months ago? Likely less than 30-40 minutes, right? Because the population has been dwindling. I'm just being realistic mate. If things didn't change, and you kept bleeding players, you absolutely would start seeing much longer queues within a pretty short period of time. Once things get bad, they get worse a lot faster as more people jump ship.

[Judgersj]

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with two hour long queues and a dead open world? No.

So, you, a player from a PvE server, know better what the queues are like on a PvP server, right? I’m from a PvP server and I’ve never waited longer than 30–40 minutes for a BG.

And what were they two months ago? Likely less than 30-40 minutes, right? Because the population has been dwindling. I'm just being realistic mate. If things didn't change, and you kept bleeding players, you absolutely would start seeing much longer queues within a pretty short period of time. Once things get bad, they get worse a lot faster as more people jump ship.

No, just about 5 days ago, before the introduction of the x2 experience, when most players started making alts. Are you considering making a cross-server bg without a cross-fractional pvp server? For example, as an Alterac valley now. Do you think that after the introduction of cross-fractional hd pvp, the server did not lose players? I haven't played on this "pvp" server in principle for 2 days now. I will log in to the game exactly 2 more times. On Wednesday, to restore the streak to rank 12 again, and on the 1st, to receive rank 12. This is a matter of principle. First, the delay in the appearance of T2 pvp equipment, then the cross-fractional bg. The administration did everything to make me choose Forever, where I really don't want to go. But there are real pvp servers there.

[Mordreim123]

I chose a PVP server on OctoWoW specifically not to have cross-faction playstyles as an option, taking the handicap of longer queues etc to achieve this. If I wanted convenience I'd roll PVE.

I think having xfaction xrealm bg queues and then later adding same faction queue option on the PVP server is a bad idea and further fragments that realms playerbase in queues. At that point it's the same choice between playing on a pve server or a pvp server.

Alternatively you could implement this extra queue the other way around, on a pve server players could have the option to queue cross faction and then a second queue for xrealm but same faction where alliance on pve server are funneled to join ally on pvp server and horde to horde etc.

Xfaction really turns me off playing octo and wondering what the point of rolling on a PVP server actually is.

[Mordreim123]

You can't make N'zoth players to be added to appropriate factions? Horde to the Horde and Alliance to Alliance?

I play on PvP server specifically to avoid cross faction stuff. Please consider adding this correction.

Hard agree with this, put better than my rambling in my last post.

[Kodisky]

Do people who choose PvP servers do so to play with two hour long queues and a dead open world? No.

So, you, a player from a PvE server, know better what the queues are like on a PvP server, right? I’m from a PvP server and I’ve never waited longer than 30–40 minutes for a BG.

And what were they two months ago? Likely less than 30-40 minutes, right? Because the population has been dwindling. I'm just being realistic mate. If things didn't change, and you kept bleeding players, you absolutely would start seeing much longer queues within a pretty short period of time. Once things get bad, they get worse a lot faster as more people jump ship.

Your takes are as painful to read as Knifewrench's. You dont play on PvP server so you wouldnt know. But the 60s had Bgs everyday and I was in the process of making twink guilds on Horde and Ally so we could do lvl 19 bgs. If guilds on horde and ally can organize raids, they can organize AV's. The majority of people on the PvP server do not like cross faction, but not enough to throw a hissy like Knifewrench (his name is Goober on Ally).

This change is more of a panic reaction and it takes away a lot of agency from YS players. Which is not good.

Also between the mana cost reduction, dmg dampening and now cross faction cross realm bgs and the boosted xp, one cannot help but start to see some similarities to where retail was as it started to go down hill in the name of convenience (end of WotLK)

Also there are 350+ yS players and that number didnt increase due to double xp, or cross realm BGs so I dunno what to say to you. The best bet for YS imo would be for content creators to make some fun PvP videos.