Russ1anrenegade wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 7:36 am
Gearcheck Claims:
I don't think we have ever had a "Gear Check" for a k10.. that's insane.
We don't even have a gear check section in our discord lol.. do we expect better than greens (Yeah) but we take fresh 60 trials all the time.
EU Team Claims:
As for the claims on our EU Team being left behind or a "feeder" myself and all the NA players made alts to help get their team off the ground and actively recruited people to fill the EU Timezone so they didn't have to stay up until 3am.
Now the EU Team is totally self sufficient and clearing content under Bearchief, Darkshado, Drogon and Soap's leadership. We all work together to accomplish goals, clear content and make the game fun and refreshing.
Market Manipulation:
Controlling a market is totally normal in classic wow - its how we paid for our guild bank and 3 tabs in it already. we use the eyes of shadow to do that on top of high end crafts that we do sell to the public but at a premium. we all agreed as a guild to gate keep recipes to drive the prices up so we all could make money. is it scummy, maybe, but that's something i am OK with. I come from a game that gatekeeping and controlling resources is king and i bring that mentality to WoW for better or worse.
World Bosses:
World Bosses in classic wow are highly sought after and contested by guilds. We simply beat you all the the punch. we all made warlocks and clickers + Spys and have rotations to check for things. This is apart of the game and we see the value in doing it as it will leapfrog our progression later. We have had one instance that i can think of where a non Levia member attended a world boss and funny enough it was a member of Panda on a azuergos kill. This player didn't even receive a item ( I Think?) either way we dont sell loot... lol.
No one in my guild has been banned for cheating or any other thing other than a druid very very early on in the servers lifecycle who was dual boxing challenge characters and warned multiple times and got banned. RIP Dru.
it is still insane to me that classic wow has this much finger pointing and shit throwing over a 20 year old game, what we do as a guild has zero effect on any of you or your day to day playing experience. If any member of Levia is effecting this playing experience in a negative way make a ticket and it will be dealt with by a GM and or message me with receipts and i can look into it.
Keep your tinfoil hats close.
Lopp
GM of Levia
Not banned
PS: Subscribe to my youtube channel and seethe in the comments. it helps the algorithm. (This is the game we come from and yeah we are hated there too
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Hi, Lopp. I'd just like to offer another perspective.
Just to be clear:
I don’t think that your guild is cheating.
I don't think the GMs are secretly helping Levia either.
But I think many of you misunderstand why people dislike your guild. (I may exaggerate «dislike”, but I've heard a lot of negative opinions about Levia. ).
There is a difference between “playing by the rules” and “making the server enjoyable for everyone”.
I think what we have here is the clash of different cultures and even languages. Many people I enjoy playing with seem to speak the language of "community", "having fun", "people", "parties" and "trust". Reading your post, I noticed a very different vocabulary: "progression", "market", "resources", "control" and "competition".
I think this is where the misunderstanding begins. See, though you don’t break any rules you have a real effect on other people's experience. Through controlling the market and world bosses, you are really taking away part of the experience from the others. It may not be against the rules, but it can easily come across as self-centered to other players. You just making people feel like there is no place for us in this game if we don’t want or don’t have time to play this game “effectively”. It feels like you leaving us with the role of spectators of your journey to greatness. And that makes people doubt if they wanna come back here tomorrow.
Sometimes it feels as if "we follow the rules" becomes the end of the discussion, while many players are actually talking about something different — the atmosphere of the server. Rules are created by GMs and developers, but the community atmosphere is created by all of us. And if you like to be one of the biggest and the best guilds on server (in some way you really are) you naturally have more influence and therefore more responsibility . The larger and more influential a guild becomes, the more visible its actions become. Whether you like it or not, people start associating the server with you.
I understand why your guild plays this way. You are organized, competitive and want to get the most out of the game. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. I'm only trying to explain why some people who don't share that philosophy react so negatively.
I may be wrong, as I come from a live-action roleplaying culture where the main unspoken rule is not to negatively affect other people's experience. But I am gonna try to ask: please take a time not thinking only by the rules. Rules tell us what we are allowed to do. Communities are built by asking ourselves what kind of experience we want other people to have. Even if the mechanics and rules allow something, it's worth considering how beneficial it is for the community atmosphere you are part of.
Thank you for your time.