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Seeking clarification on camping and if it's even under griefing rules.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2026 8:06 am
by Mauden
Hello. I have been warned with a 14 day ban, and given a "notice from a Game Master" for camping a player that has themselves spent several days camping Sentinel Hill in Westfall.

I have two primary issues with this.
  • Camping someone is, despite what the GM Ulisees has stated to me, not listed under the rules about griefing. I understand that the rules are not meant to cover every exact scenario, but camping is such a common occurance throughout WoWs history that it absolutely should be explicitly forbidden if so desired. Especially with how specific the current griefing scenarios on the rules are!
  • As mentioned above, this person does nothing but sit in Westfall and kill lower level Alliance. Every day, for the past week at least, they're always Westfall. They have chosen to enable War Mode and go into an opposing factions zone with the exclusive goal of killing lower level players, I find it very unreasonable that it's expected to allow that to happen unabated. Especially as they've made it obvious that they have no intent of leaving the zone.
I would greatly appreciate this being cleared up, as I have no desire to intentionally break rules. If it is indeed intended to be prohibited, I believe it would be beneficial to have very specific guidelines on how to deal with a tenacious player attacking your faction in your own factions zones.

Re: Seeking clarification on camping and if it's even under griefing rules.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2026 8:50 am
by Knifewrench
Mauden wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2026 8:06 am Hello. I have been warned with a 14 day ban, and given a "notice from a Game Master" for camping a player that has themselves spent several days camping Sentinel Hill in Westfall.

I have two primary issues with this.
  • Camping someone is, despite what the GM Ulisees has stated to me, not listed under the rules about griefing. I understand that the rules are not meant to cover every exact scenario, but camping is such a common occurance throughout WoWs history that it absolutely should be explicitly forbidden if so desired. Especially with how specific the current griefing scenarios on the rules are!
  • As mentioned above, this person does nothing but sit in Westfall and kill lower level Alliance. Every day, for the past week at least, they're always Westfall. They have chosen to enable War Mode and go into an opposing factions zone with the exclusive goal of killing lower level players, I find it very unreasonable that it's expected to allow that to happen unabated. Especially as they've made it obvious that they have no intent of leaving the zone.
I would greatly appreciate this being cleared up, as I have no desire to intentionally break rules. If it is indeed intended to be prohibited, I believe it would be beneficial to have very specific guidelines on how to deal with a tenacious player attacking your faction in your own factions zones.
gm also assists in extorting players. whole gm should be looked at for his shady things.

Re: Seeking clarification on camping and if it's even under griefing rules.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2026 12:32 pm
by Reilly0
I could see a GM warning a player for "griefing" in this case, if it were a player camping random warmoded players in Westfall. But if the poster's words are true, that is not the case. Either way, a 14 day ban is ridiculous. Please investigate this GM, as they also aided with the extortion of a player's materials. (Nightfall craft)

Re: Seeking clarification on camping and if it's even under griefing rules.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2026 2:43 pm
by Darktifa
Mauden wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2026 8:06 am I would greatly appreciate this being cleared up, as I have no desire to intentionally break rules. If it is indeed intended to be prohibited, I believe it would be beneficial to have very specific guidelines on how to deal with a tenacious player attacking your faction in your own factions zones.
You have to be more precise on what happened

Chasing lowbies, although a shitty behaviour, is normal
and WarMode on PvE - HC realms is an option

On the other hand, how did u camp him?
He can always spirit rez and flee the area

Re: Seeking clarification on camping and if it's even under griefing rules.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2026 10:48 pm
by Mauden
Darktifa wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2026 2:43 pm On the other hand, how did u camp him?
He can always spirit rez and flee the area
I see him in Sentinel HIll, I kill him, I wait for him to rez and give him time to run out of Westfall/Hearth, when he doesn't, I kill him again. I would also kill him upon rezzing if he immediately tried to attack someone, which was very often.
I won't pretend I wasn't camping him pretty aggressively, massive waste of time on both of our parts, but at no point was he unable to leave the zone.

Re: Seeking clarification on camping and if it's even under griefing rules.

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2026 7:25 am
by Knifewrench
Mauden wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2026 10:48 pm
Darktifa wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2026 2:43 pm On the other hand, how did u camp him?
He can always spirit rez and flee the area
I see him in Sentinel HIll, I kill him, I wait for him to rez and give him time to run out of Westfall/Hearth, when he doesn't, I kill him again. I would also kill him upon rezzing if he immediately tried to attack someone, which was very often.
I won't pretend I wasn't camping him pretty aggressively, massive waste of time on both of our parts, but at no point was he unable to leave the zone.
this isnt against the rules, i recomend posting in ban appeals. its pvp, u pick warmode u get ganked no crying. but this GM has been doing shady shit and needs a investigation.