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temp ban?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2026 2:32 am
by Bizz
Hello,

How come I received a temp ban?

I was trading items and silver through my toon chain then started to play my warrior and got kicked mid fight with a murloc

Re: temp ban?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2026 4:49 am
by Kestrel
For context see https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2913

Tricking players into flagging for PvP while safe in an instance then ambushing them with your second toon (or having your friend do it) is why you received a temp ban.

Looking closer it appears that it was another person who got the previous ban for this, and this was your first time receiving discipline for this type of behavior.

In light of that I've lifted the ban and will just have this serve as a warning, if you are caught doing this again, you will be banned.

Truth (another conspirator in this situation) will be keeping their 7 days ban as they were already banned for this behavior previously.

Re: temp ban?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2026 5:42 am
by Defiant
Kestrel wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2026 4:49 am Truth (another conspirator in this situation) will be keeping their 7 days ban as they were already banned for this behavior previously.
It's wild that Truth kept doing it after already receiving a ban.

Re: temp ban?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2026 7:37 am
by Wubc
Defiant wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2026 5:42 am
It's wild that Truth kept doing it after already receiving a ban.
I'm kinda surprised that repeated offenses of griefing on a HC realm, where the negative impact on others is infinitely higher: quite plausibly costing the victim more than 7 days, is not a perma-ban and instead a slap on the wrist. I don't make the rules, but that seems off to me.

Re: temp ban?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2026 6:28 pm
by Adesta113
Well, killing someone who type /pvp it's by rule. It's entirely the player’s own decision. It’s not a missclick, nor is it an auto-flag triggered by quest or bug. Forgot to turn it off? That, too, is solely on player. If it's was multiboxing, okay, temp ban is fine. But goes to dung with someone in warmode own decision. Especially if you war/pala who will get auto-on pvp due to shout and holy strike (which I reported). So it's some kind of meme: "I will turn pvp on cuz I'm in dung and you will get ban for it".

Re: temp ban?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2026 5:12 am
by Wubc
Adesta113 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2026 6:28 pm Well, killing someone who type /pvp it's by rule. It's entirely the player’s own decision. It’s not a missclick, nor is it an auto-flag triggered by quest or bug. Forgot to turn it off? That, too, is solely on player. If it's was multiboxing, okay, temp ban is fine. But goes to dung with someone in warmode own decision. Especially if you war/pala who will get auto-on pvp due to shout and holy strike (which I reported). So it's some kind of meme: "I will turn pvp on cuz I'm in dung and you will get ban for it".
It's not about whether you can kill a flagged player. It is about whether you can maliciously entice someone to flag, knowing you (or an associate) will take advantage of it to kill them under the pretense of protection gained from the instance. The premeditation is quite crucial so, no you would not get banned simply because someone flagged, as you had nothing to do with why they flagged... :roll:

And looking at the rules:
Intentional abuse of game mechanics to kill hardcore players. Being bad is not griefing. Hunting warmode players is not griefing. Tricking players into flagging for PvP or infiltrating a raid and sabotaging it are.
so, it is in fact specifically against the rules. However I can not be sure if this is a new addition or has always been there as I don't play Hc myself and no revision history is available AFAIK.