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Scythe of Elune - An elephant in the room

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 7:50 pm
by Pastelpop
Dear Octowow staff

I'm writing this post for the sole purpose of pleading you to change how Scythe of Elune is obtained.

Scythe was a notorious item in Turtle WoW due to how impossibly random it was to obtain. A piece of gear that would literally make or break your dps. A trinket to rule all trinkets. A trinket that would literally keep you from being a high tier caster dps if you didn't obtain it.

It's actually insane that by far the best trinket in the game is obtained from a lowly Kara10, a dungeon that is hardly more difficult than UBRS. It throws the balance of the game out the window.

A single trinket should not overshadow all trinkets in the game, making it the choice for every single scenario and fight.

I'm pleading you, for the behalf of most of Turtle WoWs high ranking caster parsers, either change the Scythe to be a something like Atiesh where the acquisition of it doesn't completely rely on randomness, or just outright remove it.

Re: Scythe of Elune - An elephant in the room

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 8:07 pm
by Mrsneed
The initial scythe item drops in K10 but the quest chain is huge and requires a lot more effort than what you're insinuating it to be. First off, the K10 drop chance for the quest item is slightly lower than the other legendary items from MC, and you can reliably farm it twice per week. Then it requires you to progress through all of K40 to complete the quest chain and equip it.

It's a legendary item with a legendary quest line and legendary effort to complete it. It's a great trinket for a reason, but not game breaking. Worth the effort put into obtaining it, but not mandatory. Like all aspects of this game, it's a dps enhancer, not a crutch for suboptimal gameplay.

What you want is a legendary item gained with the same effort put forth for an epic raid item, and that's not what this experience is, was, or should be.

Re: Scythe of Elune - An elephant in the room

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 10:22 pm
by Nezu
The design for scythe is absolutely atrocious. It being absolute, undisputed bis whilst at the same time having it on a 2% drop chance means that if you're unlucky you're just never going to be optimal. I have farmed that shit every reset for 2 years without ever seeing it; any item that punishes bad luck THIS much is just horrible design. We're talking about shacking 5-10% of your total dps to a 2% dice that you can roll once every 5 days, it's just bad.

And if you think this trinket is 'not mandatory', you're just delusional. If you want to be competitive you MUST have it, it's just how it is. If you don't, you're 5-10% dps behind people who do. It's just bad design.

Re: Scythe of Elune - An elephant in the room

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 5:27 am
by Moksey
Its not mandatory. Just like thunderfury is not mandatory for tanking or atiesh for dps etc.

Re: Scythe of Elune - An elephant in the room

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 6:14 am
by Rocdog

Re: Scythe of Elune - An elephant in the room

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 1:14 am
by Nseternal
maybe we shouldn't even have such an item available that was first introduced in Legion expansion.