diff --git a/api/config.lua b/api/config.lua
index a5adcb27..7797aaa4 100644
--- a/api/config.lua
+++ b/api/config.lua
@@ -603,6 +603,7 @@ function pfUI:LoadConfig()
   pfUI:UpdateConfig("nameplates", nil,           "heightcast",       "8")
   pfUI:UpdateConfig("nameplates", nil,           "cpdisplay",        "0")
   pfUI:UpdateConfig("thirdparty", nil,           "chatbg",           "1")
+  pfUI:UpdateConfig("thirdparty", nil,           "showmeter",        "0")
   pfUI:UpdateConfig("thirdparty", "dpsmate",     "skin",             "1")
   pfUI:UpdateConfig("thirdparty", "dpsmate",     "dock",             "1")
   pfUI:UpdateConfig("thirdparty", "swstats",     "skin",             "1")
diff --git a/env/translations_deDE.lua b/env/translations_deDE.lua
index 073e5b22..cfbc24b0 100644
--- a/env/translations_deDE.lua
+++ b/env/translations_deDE.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["deDE"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = nil,
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = nil,
   ["Show Macro Text"] = nil,
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = nil,
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = nil,
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = nil,
diff --git a/env/translations_enUS.lua b/env/translations_enUS.lua
index b2f13ec0..06a6a1c2 100644
--- a/env/translations_enUS.lua
+++ b/env/translations_enUS.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["enUS"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = nil,
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = nil,
   ["Show Macro Text"] = nil,
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = nil,
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = nil,
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = nil,
diff --git a/env/translations_esES.lua b/env/translations_esES.lua
index 9df16d2f..9520e525 100644
--- a/env/translations_esES.lua
+++ b/env/translations_esES.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["esES"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = "Mostrar Curación Periódica (HoTs) de Todas las Clases",
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = "Mostrar Rastreo Inactivo",
   ["Show Macro Text"] = "Mostrar Texto de Macro",
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = "Solamente Mostrar Jugadores",
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = "Mostrar Ocurrencias aleatorias programadas (Procs) como Indicadores de Buffs",
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = "Mostrar Ocurrencias aleatorias programadas (Procs) de Todas las Clases",
diff --git a/env/translations_frFR.lua b/env/translations_frFR.lua
index 7cb5fd5e..5d84fb05 100644
--- a/env/translations_frFR.lua
+++ b/env/translations_frFR.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["frFR"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = "Afficher les soins sur la durée de chaque classe",
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = nil,
   ["Show Macro Text"] = "Afficher le texte des macros",
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = "Afficher les joueurs uniquement",
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = "Afficher les procs en tant qu'indicateur d'amélioration",
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = "Afficher les procs de chaque classe",
diff --git a/env/translations_koKR.lua b/env/translations_koKR.lua
index c93f78d6..6c946c88 100644
--- a/env/translations_koKR.lua
+++ b/env/translations_koKR.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["koKR"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = "모든 클래스 핫버프 보기",
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = nil,
   ["Show Macro Text"] = "매크로 텍스트 표시",
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = "플레이어만 보기",
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = "무기활성화버프 버프표시기에 보기",
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = "모든 클래스 무기활성화 버프 보기",
diff --git a/env/translations_ruRU.lua b/env/translations_ruRU.lua
index 18726a4a..58b8905c 100644
--- a/env/translations_ruRU.lua
+++ b/env/translations_ruRU.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["ruRU"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = "Показать лечение со временем (HoT) всех классов",
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = "Показать неактивное отслеживание",
   ["Show Macro Text"] = "Показать текст макросов",
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = "Показать только игроков",
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = "Показать проки (Procs) как индикаторы баффов",
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = "Показать проки (Procs) всех классов",
diff --git a/env/translations_zhCN.lua b/env/translations_zhCN.lua
index e06f9c51..6e714d78 100644
--- a/env/translations_zhCN.lua
+++ b/env/translations_zhCN.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["zhCN"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = "显示所有职业的Hot",
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = "显示已激活的追踪图标",
   ["Show Macro Text"] = "显示宏的名字",
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = "仅显示自己",
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = "在框架的Buff指示器显示触发效果",
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = "显示所有职业的触发效果",
diff --git a/env/translations_zhTW.lua b/env/translations_zhTW.lua
index c94f5c1f..0d015606 100644
--- a/env/translations_zhTW.lua
+++ b/env/translations_zhTW.lua
@@ -373,6 +373,7 @@ pfUI_translation["zhTW"] = {
   ["Show Hots of all Classes"] = "顯示所有職業的Hot",
   ["Show Inactive Tracking"] = nil,
   ["Show Macro Text"] = "顯示巨集的名字",
+  ["Show Meters By Default"] = nil,
   ["Show Players Only"] = "僅顯示自己",
   ["Show Procs as Buff Indicators"] = "在框架的Buff指示器顯示觸發效果",
   ["Show Procs of all Classes"] = "顯示所有職業的觸發效果",
diff --git a/modules/gui.lua b/modules/gui.lua
index eb1244d5..6468a169 100644
--- a/modules/gui.lua
+++ b/modules/gui.lua
@@ -1199,6 +1199,7 @@ pfUI:RegisterModule("gui", function ()
   pfUI.gui.tabs.thirdparty.tabs.general = pfUI.gui.tabs.thirdparty.tabs:CreateTabChild(T["Thirdparty"], true)
   pfUI.gui.tabs.thirdparty.tabs.general:SetScript("OnShow", function()
     if not this.setup then
+      CreateConfig(nil, this, T["Show Meters By Default"], C.thirdparty, "showmeter", "checkbox")
       CreateConfig(nil, this, T["Use Chat Colors for Meters"], C.thirdparty, "chatbg", "checkbox")
       CreateConfig(nil, this, T["DPSMate (Skin)"], C.thirdparty.dpsmate, "skin", "checkbox")
       CreateConfig(nil, this, T["DPSMate (Dock)"], C.thirdparty.dpsmate, "dock", "checkbox")
diff --git a/modules/thirdparty.lua b/modules/thirdparty.lua
index 95f88ab2..bcac7d3b 100644
--- a/modules/thirdparty.lua
+++ b/modules/thirdparty.lua
@@ -580,4 +580,17 @@ pfUI:RegisterModule("thirdparty", function ()
       end
     end
   end)
+
+  -- toggle meter by default if configured
+  if C.thirdparty.ktm.dock == "1" or C.thirdparty.dpsmate.dock == "1" or C.thirdparty.swstats.dock == "1" then
+    if C.thirdparty.showmeter == "1" then
+      local f = CreateFrame("Frame")
+      f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD")
+      f:SetScript("OnEvent", function()
+        pfUI.thirdparty.meters.state = false
+        pfUI.thirdparty.meters:Toggle()
+        this:UnregisterAllEvents()
+      end)
+    end
+  end
 end)