My stealth experience with 3 different races

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Stabotage
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My stealth experience with 3 different races

Post#1 » Tue Jun 30, 2026 4:28 pm

I'd like to main a human rogue however, even with 5 points in the talent that is supposed to enhance stealth, I get detected more than my nightelf with no points in it, and goblin with no points. Are humans bugged in regards to stealth? Maybe certain areas have better stealth detection mobs than others? My gob is in gob starter area. My NE played NE starting area and Elwynn forest some. Human played in Northshire, E-Forest. Plan on doing more testing with the NE in E-forest, but so far humans seem bugged. again, my human has 5 points in the sub talent that lowers cooldown, increases movement spd, and is supposed to lower chance of detection. Thanks for any feedback.

Amyloriley
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Re: My stealth experience with 3 different races

Post#2 » Thu Sep 03, 2026 2:48 pm

Night Elves have Shadowmeld. Outside of being a Stealth-as-long-as-you-stand-still, it also adds a hidden 1 rank to Master of Deception / Camouflage.

This means that when putting five talent points in Camouflage, Night Elf effectively have 6 ranks in the talent.

Whether that makes it broken is up to you; with the Shadowmeld racial competing with, say High Elf Rogues having +2% Agility and the ability to regen 50 energy over 5 seconds with a 1.5 second cast.

Shadowmeld works as intended and works the same in if not vanilla 1.12, at least in World of Warcraft Classic.

More info: https://shadowpanther.net/stealthtest.htm

Nostalgiaman
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Re: My stealth experience with 3 different races

Post#3 » Sun Sep 06, 2026 2:43 am

Amyloriley wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 2:48 pm Whether that makes it broken is up to you; with the Shadowmeld racial competing with, say High Elf Rogues having +2% Agility and the ability to regen 50 energy over 5 seconds with a 1.5 second cast.
So, I made a good choice by picking High Elf? I started to regret not going Human when my class quests took me into the Human storyline, which felt a bit abrupt, and when I realized some of the best Rogue gear drops in the Deadmines. Plus, a good chunk of quest rewards in Darkshore feels like it was made with Druids or other int/spirit classes in mind.

How are you supposed to use Quel'dorei Meditation, anyway? At first, I thought it seemed like a kick-ass racial, but the only window I've found for it is after a Gouge, meaning it's competing with applying a bandage.

Amyloriley
Posts: 4

Re: My stealth experience with 3 different races

Post#4 » Sun Sep 06, 2026 5:47 pm

I haven't found a good use of Quel'Dorei Meditation for the Rogue due outside the single-digit levels where weapon damage is low enough that more energy, even on a 1.5 second cast, is an improvement.

I think it might be of some use while switching mobs. You're under attack by two mobs, you kill one, you now have low energy at the end of the fight, so you activate Quel'Dorei Meditation as a way to quickly regain some energy, and then you start your rotation. The alternative being you have to wait 4 seconds for two ticks before you can get some Sinister Strike in. Or wait 6 seconds to get a Gouge in.

Might as well activate it. I don't know if 1.5 second cast competing with white weapon damage is worth it, prolly depends on weapon, but it's definitely a whole lot more fun to start your rotation a second or two early.

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