Proposal for a mass amnesty.

[Tegridyfarms420]

Letting people get unbanned for donating too the Octo server for any reason would be a bad idea. You would effectively be telling your playerbase there are no rules as long as you have enough money to donate too the server.

[Terribletank]

Letting people get unbanned for donating too the Octo server for any reason would be a bad idea. You would effectively be telling your playerbase there are no rules as long as you have enough money to donate too the server.

But there are no "rules". To this very day the copy/paste "rules" are enforced on some, ignored for others. At that, the "rules" are made up on the fly, randomly at best, and used by those who paracited and wormed their way into elevated access to endlessly harass others in the game.

[Defiant]

Letting people get unbanned for donating too the Octo server for any reason would be a bad idea. You would effectively be telling your playerbase there are no rules as long as you have enough money to donate too the server.

But there are no "rules". To this very day the copy/paste "rules" are enforced on some, ignored for others. At that, the "rules" are made up on the fly, randomly at best, and used by those who paracited and wormed their way into elevated access to endlessly harass others in the game.

Brother, what are you even talking about? If you're going to say shit like that, provide some examples at least. There absolutely are rules, as seen in this subforum. Which ban appeals do you disagree with? Lets talk specifics, not vague horseshit.

[Terribletank]

Letting people get unbanned for donating too the Octo server for any reason would be a bad idea. You would effectively be telling your playerbase there are no rules as long as you have enough money to donate too the server.

But there are no "rules". To this very day the copy/paste "rules" are enforced on some, ignored for others. At that, the "rules" are made up on the fly, randomly at best, and used by those who paracited and wormed their way into elevated access to endlessly harass others in the game.

Brother, what are you even talking about? If you're going to say shit like that, provide some examples at least. There absolutely are rules, as seen in this subforum. Which ban appeals do you disagree with? Lets talk specifics, not vague horseshit.

Its funny as your request was actually proposed. Due to the rampant gm/admin abuse taking place on the server it was suggested that all actions taken against any certain player/account are to be made public. In other words, documentation of the alleged "rule" being violated, documentation or some type of evidence of the alleged "rule" being violated, and documentation of alleged "gm" enacting said measures. If these sanction based acts were public, much of the abuse would be stymied, and it would also be easy to determine and weed out the bad apples. This proposal was shot down all but immediately, despite knowledge of the massive levels of gm/admin abuse taking place today, and since the origin of the launch of the server.

[Wubc]

Its funny as your request was actually proposed. Due to the rampant gm/admin abuse taking place on the server it was suggested that all actions taken against any certain player/account are to be made public.

It has not been established there is rampant abuse. This is like one of those Kotaku articles where they state the internet is in an uproar about something and it's 1 guy posting on Twitter about it.

In other words, documentation of the alleged "rule" being violated, documentation or some type of evidence of the alleged "rule" being violated, and documentation of alleged "gm" enacting said measures.

They can not make everything public without letting the cheaters know what lead to them being caught, thus helping them avoid it in the future. This has been iterated upon many times and is very common practice... For example this is why Blizz does bans in waves.

If these sanction based acts were public, much of the abuse would be stymied, and it would also be easy to determine and weed out the bad apples. This proposal was shot down all but immediately, despite knowledge of the massive levels of gm/admin abuse taking place today, and since the origin of the launch of the server.

Again, you say there is rampant abuse, but none of us see it. Please provide something other than anecdotal evidence.

[Terribletank]

Its funny as your request was actually proposed. Due to the rampant gm/admin abuse taking place on the server it was suggested that all actions taken against any certain player/account are to be made public.

It has not been established there is rampant abuse. This is like one of those Kotaku articles where they state the internet is in an uproar about something and it's 1 guy posting on Twitter about it.

In other words, documentation of the alleged "rule" being violated, documentation or some type of evidence of the alleged "rule" being violated, and documentation of alleged "gm" enacting said measures.

They can not make everything public without letting the cheaters know what lead to them being caught, thus helping them avoid it in the future. This has been iterated upon many times and is very common practice... For example this is why Blizz does bans in waves.

If these sanction based acts were public, much of the abuse would be stymied, and it would also be easy to determine and weed out the bad apples. This proposal was shot down all but immediately, despite knowledge of the massive levels of gm/admin abuse taking place today, and since the origin of the launch of the server.

Again, you say there is rampant abuse, but none of us see it. Please provide something other than anecdotal evidence.

Dont want to spend much time on this fruitless endeavor...

1. Management knows full well there is rampant abuse, and has known for quite some time
2. Your reply has nothing whatsoever to do with the context of what you quoted
3. You claim noone sees it yet all do, including the thousands who have been muted/banned unjustly, and as a direct result of the mental illness of those who were gifted gm/admin accounts, and used said accounts for the express purpose of harassing the playerbase; therefore at best your claim here is that you are the "none of us", and the "non of us" are oblivious to any/all taking place around you

Ill give you a 9/10 though for contributing nothing useful to the conversation.

[Defiant]

3. You claim noone sees it yet all do, including the thousands who have been muted/banned unjustly,

If there was rampant abuse you would have been banned long ago. The fact that they let people like you blatantly lie is evidence that they are in fact quite fair.

And they've banned thousands of people? Wild. Thousands? That's a lot of bans. Are they also deleting the ban appeals? Are they also controlling all the Reddit threads that would pop up if this was happening? Is Octowow the Illuminati?! IS THE EARTH FLAT?!

You cannot provide a single example. End of thread.

[Terribletank]

Dont want to spend much time on this fruitless endeavor...

If there was rampant abuse you would have been banned long ago. The fact that they let people like you blatantly lie is evidence that they are in fact quite fair.

And they've banned thousands of people? Wild. Thousands? That's a lot of bans. Are they also deleting the ban appeals? Are they also controlling all the Reddit threads that would pop up if this was happening? Is Octowow the Illuminati?! IS THE EARTH FLAT?!

You cannot provide a single example. End of thread.

What would ever make you think that i haven't been banned a long time ago? If you must know, i was banned on my very first toon, the very first day i logged in, and less than 5 minutes into the game, just for asking questions about managements position relating to certain elements in the game.

Anywho, thanks for clarifying that you are what needs to be weeded out, and i will make certain that happens.

[Kestrel]

1. Management knows full well there is rampant abuse, and has known for quite some time
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What would ever make you think that i haven't been banned a long time ago? If you must know, i was banned on my very first toon, the very first day i logged in, and less than 5 minutes into the game, just for asking questions about managements position relating to certain elements in the game.

Now it all makes sense, I thought this poster sounded familiar! They sent what is probably the most memorable email I have received in my life.

Normally I prefer to let these type of posters get dealt with via letting the community ask/push them for more information and realize they are full of shit, but given the history you have @terrible, you've been given plenty of slack. You can continue to post here for now, but you need to stop with these absurd claims you make as fact.

There is no child grooming conspiracy here, GM's do not get off on "harassing the playerbase", and management is not aware of rampant abuse because there is no rampant abuse.

I would recommend that if you'd like to continue to play on the server you either gather extensive unrefutable evidence of some sort of concrete grievance, or you just keep your head down given your clear inability to know what constitutes appropriate behavior.

[Darien]

Now it all makes sense, I thought this poster sounded familiar! They sent what is probably the most memorable email I have received in my life.

Oh come on. You can't just leave us hanging like that!