WoW Forever

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Mario
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#71 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 5:22 am

Stunt wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2026 9:40 am It's more like WoW 2 rather than classic +. I think you and the other pserver players that are anti-blizzard are hyper focused on that when I personally just want a good product that wont shut down or get ddos and have dead server pop.
As I said, it doesn't really even matter what it's called, but it's obviously classic plus. Watch the blizzcon presentation and they said classic plus like 50 times. The Holly lady in the costume literally said this is classic plus.
And yes we all want a good product and a good game. But you're not really getting it with Forever if you care about any of the pillars of classic. Do whatever you want with your money and time, but don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
Btw Turtle had thousands of players and was stable for almost 10 years. And if these other private servers can do half of that I'll be more than happy. And I believe they can.

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Mario
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#72 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 5:30 am

Killafin wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 1:07 am The way I see it, all the people gushing over WoW forever did not learn their lesson the last several dozen times Blizzard has pulled on people's nostalgia by making promises that turned out to be lies, making it "seem" like they listen to players in beta to launch only to bait and switch dogshit into their game a patch later.

Do not be fooled, blizzard will listen to complainers and add more casual slop, they will put wow token in there, they will simplify the combat, and so on. Classic fans seem to have forgotten why they put their foot down when they said no changes. It's not that wow fans do not want new things in their wow classic experience. It's the fact that blizzard has shown, time and again, that they cannot be trusted with any change they do to a video game because they will just turn it into retail as well.

Even if we ignore all that and focus on the "cool" new content, Blizzard can still not deter botting in their games to the point, it's obviously on purpose at this point. After all, if bots inflate gold prices, blizzard can justify injecting wow token into WoW Forever, and at that point they can make more money from bots continuing to inflate the price, so there is zero incentive to fix it, which is why a private server does it better in that regard.

Then we also cannot forget that fact that we live in 2026. WoW forever is going to have a social problem because we live in a time where everyone has to walk on eggshells. That is why no one uses a chat function in wow beyond the bare minimum for selling and looking for groups. Why use social features in a video game what that can just get your account banned? This is why private servers beat that also, because while there is some comb over on bad behavior, it's not nearly as bad as Blizzard's social contract.
Couldn't have said it better.

Stunt wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2026 1:34 am People aren't Dumb. We don't trust Blizzard. However, you'd be blind to not see that the best time to play WoW Forever is NOW BEFORE they add a whole bunch of crap to it. How is this any different from joining a private server that will eventually get shut down? Turtle WoW players lost everything and immediately jump ship to another pserver that can't protect itself from DDOS from its rivals stealing the same code lol. WoW Forever is the funnest experience right now. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Most people are very dumb. And they forget very fast. I get that they're desperate for a good WoW experience, but as I said it's not gonna come from Blizzard.
And yes, Forever is very fun now while its new (if you just accept the base state of the game and forget everything that you dislike). But I really don't want to pay money to blizz, so I'll just wait for a private Forever server (it's already happening btw) or other servers to build upon it.
As I said technically the only thing I want is the better client. I don't think the content is better than what we have here.

Uggerbugger
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#73 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 5:57 am

For the ones arguing for WoW Forever, you are wasting your time. You don't go to church and argue Satan is a great fellow. They have Forever to have their believes, and either they come around of their own volition or they don't. Meanwhile we can have a great time with an awesome product.

Melody
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#74 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 6:02 am

i cant wait for the release.
because forever will have something that octo doesnt.
people to play 5man dungeons with

Saturga1
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#75 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:10 am

I would prefer Octowow - but i cant connect. I think Octo will shrink with the release of wow to a very small hardcore playerbase. For the majority of the playerbase the instability is killing Octo and it became a waiting room for wow forever.

Crimsonc
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#76 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:50 am

If you've been unable to log in for a month how would you know what the majority of the playerbase is thinking?

Ciggitybutts
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Re: WoW Forever

Post#77 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:44 pm

Never Forever

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Re: WoW Forever

Post#78 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:25 pm

The reasons are endless not to trust the hype

1. The paywalled race is a huge red flag from the start. It shows that blizzard is already starting to monetize and enshittify the game right at the outset. Not to mention that the blue sky smurf is pulled out of thin air lore wise. By accepting and buying this package, players are telling blizzard they'd be willing to do it once, so why not again? It sets a precedent and blizzard will notice

2. A lot of the hype is manufactured and nostalgia is doing much of the heavy lifting. Blizzard invites streamers to their hq and collaborates with them. Wait until the hype dies down and more organic voices start giving their options. Upgraded fog and water details are nice but when that excitement fades we'll be left with the game and whatever blizzard decides to do with it. Historically that has meant monetizing and milking it. There is no reason to think this time will be different.

3. Blizzard as a company is objectively awful. It's owned by Microsoft and has a long history of busting unions and creating unsafe work environments for their team (see "bill cosby room")

4. Oh yeah, and Blizzard killed turtle wow. Rewarding them for that by giving them subs is exactly what they want and the kind of incentive that will keep them coming after private servers

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Re: WoW Forever

Post#79 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:38 pm

Doaksie wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:25 pm The reasons are endless not to trust the hype

1. The paywalled race is a huge red flag from the start. It shows that blizzard is already starting to monetize and enshittify the game right at the outset. Not to mention that the blue sky smurf is pulled out of thin air lore wise. By accepting and buying this package, players are telling blizzard they'd be willing to do it once, so why not again? It sets a precedent and blizzard will notice

2. A lot of the hype is manufactured and nostalgia is doing much of the heavy lifting. Blizzard invites streamers to their hq and collaborates with them. Wait until the hype dies down and more organic voices start giving their options. Upgraded fog and water details are nice but when that excitement fades we'll be left with the game and whatever blizzard decides to do with it. Historically that has meant monetizing and milking it. There is no reason to think this time will be different.

3. Blizzard as a company is objectively awful. It's owned by Microsoft and has a long history of busting unions and creating unsafe work environments for their team (see "bill cosby room")

4. Oh yeah, and Blizzard killed turtle wow. Rewarding them for that by giving them subs is exactly what they want and the kind of incentive that will keep them coming after private servers
Preach.

I'd also add that there is already visual disconnect, when you compare the smelf stuff to other stuff, the purple/violet druid forms, looks just jarring.

Another thing is the gaslighting, I can't take the bs that the 'skaiborne' are Chris Mentzen's original Idea. They're banking on WoW player's ignorance. Anybody that touched DnD knows about Genasi race, and specifically it's the Air Genasi that these new blue elves came from. But the cool thing about Genasi was that they were half-genies. And their origin had may vary. That they were created by gods, that mortals went to elemental plane and child born in there came out like that. That they're literally half-djinnies, or they were created by some botched ritual.

There were 4 options of genasi, to represent each element, so there was also fire, water and earth.

So that makes me wonder if we will meet Waterborne, fireborne and earthborne that will be also locked behind 30 paywall.

And even their druid forms- the bear form is literally owlbear, a creature iconic to DND setting.

It makes me angry that they try to sell this blatant, soulless copy-paste as OG idea of Chris Metzen. I call it bull.


Another red flag is actually Dalaran - because we saw it being destroyed in the cinematic by Archimonde. From the get go they show contempt for consequences, and willingness to disregard source material just to go for cool factor. Sabotaging their own work. Destruction of Dalaran was crucial for WC3 campaign. And while it is true t hat there are Dalaran survivors - in Silverpine and in Hillsbrad, they're very small in numbers. Because majority of them died with the city. And you tell me that after 5 years , they're all back up running as if nothing happened? It should've take many , many years for Dalaran to recover, because rebuilding buildings is one thing, but getting competent mages back is not a process that can be achieved with 5 years of timeskip.

So essentially Blizzard again is telling us to not trust our own eyes, and to not ask questions, just consume the product.

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Re: WoW Forever

Post#80 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 11:21 pm

Oh man, assuming if you seen any of the news. Blizz decided to throw out an intense and reaching ban wave for people with offensive names. People with saved names of varying quality were banned for just having the name saved on the character list, regardless if they had logged any play time on them, and rumors abound that even if you had deleted that offensive character name you would be banned from the beta.

Of course, regular forever access is still allowed but people are upset to find very innocent jokes are causing them to lose total beta access. Naturally their chief production hides behind that the:
-Ban Wave was small
-We should be more mature
-That the process was structured
-That any mistakes were ' white lies.'

Im seeing a lot of people who are saying its a bad look for the face of Forever. :?
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