clean up all the Turtle junk its called Octo now

[Hfm1]

Was in Ungoro questing and encountered numerous guild bases that were totally out of place lore wise and also full of junk. Clipping objects spanish speaking npc´s and half copied guild bases. How can u just copy old guild bases from Twow when the plan is to release Octo Wow?

I mean open the files delete the shit from guilds from a server that no longer exists. Like carrying corpses over... How is that not even done? Makes me question if there is the skillset in the team to alter terrain and world files at all. Other than that i cant explain such an oversight. Bundled with the mysterious "DDOS" and the since the questlog update not working raid frames i get the impression of a junk server.

Clean up the shit and fix core function in the code. No clue what nuked Frame XML but its a thing for alot of people it throws numerous UI errors.

It just does not look good and gives the impression of a junk server that just wanted to realeas something fast to get shop rolling and therefore copied a whole server without even thinking twice.

I mean spanish speaking npc´s? Thats just hilarious

[Songheart]

Man you are trolling hard judging by the post history. Yes, there are Guild Bases, because this IS a leaked Turtle Clone - maybe the guilds will even come back. If not, bases can be removed later on. But your writing of posts like this shows Zero respect for people working on this Project and for People who worked on the Project before.

Its obvious you never played Turtle or tried it but it didnt suit you because a Server like that does not want shills like you. And you know what, this Server doesnt want people like that either. So instead of posting nonsense, maybe go look for another place to play and let the Devs deal with matters that actually have high Prio.

[Hfm1]

i played Turtle and most of the guild houses were abonadoned at that point in time. Its not about showing respect its about cleaning up the jank. Go to Ungoro and see the "Farmers Market" that stuff is all out of place even esp. for a former RP server.

There is a reason Turtle stopped adding these guild bases. Dont get butthurt by the tone focus on the objective. A server with clipping stairs in old guild bases with spanish npcs just doesnt look professional at all.

And the question with the skillset still stands. I have no clue who how many and if they are even capable of altering map files. Sounds a bit rude maybe but its an honest question.

[Themlin]

i played Turtle and most of the guild houses were abandoned at that point in time. Its not about showing respect its about cleaning up the jank. Go to Ungoro and see the "Farmers Market" that stuff is all out of place even esp. for a former RP server.

So, to clarify. Farmers Market is on Octo now, (under the <Farmers> tag on the HC server), and we are hoping to, eventually, regain access to our old guild base. whether that can happen or not, we'll see, but your statement about most of the guild bases in Un'Goro being abandoned back on Turtle is not true at all. The grinders' base was a live and well, and so was ours.

And, to clarify: most guilds do not spend most of their time at their base, of course. They will be spending most of their time elsewhere. That does not mean a base is abandoned.

Anyways, I somewhat agree with you that, at some point, it would probably be a good idea to take inventory of which guild bases are still in use, which deserve some sort of attempts at regaining their bases or not, and which would be allowed to remain as sort of memorials of days gone by, at some point. I also agree with the Songheart that this is clearly not a priority at the moment. Stability should be.

Now, what looks good or bad is in the eye of the beholder, but remember that many of the guilds had non-English speakers as their main base of membership, so don't be too confused if Templarios' or other guilds' bases have NPCs that have non-English dialogue. Those NPCs were literally not made for you, anyways. If you don't want to go through a guild base you do not have to, they are also, (pretty much all of them) out of the main way for the vast majority of players regardless of what zone they're in.

I am also frustrated with the lack of progress on the stability side of things, but this is, surely, molehill in comparison, and also, has very little, if anything at all, to do with you?

[Songheart]

i played Turtle and most of the guild houses were abonadoned at that point in time. Its not about showing respect its about cleaning up the jank. Go to Ungoro and see the "Farmers Market" that stuff is all out of place even esp. for a former RP server.

There is a reason Turtle stopped adding these guild bases. Dont get butthurt by the tone focus on the objective. A server with clipping stairs in old guild bases with spanish npcs just doesnt look professional at all.

And the question with the skillset still stands. I have no clue who how many and if they are even capable of altering map files. Sounds a bit rude maybe but its an honest question.

Nah I aint butthurt - your complaint is just pointless. They stopped adding them because the pop exploded and there wasnt enough for everyone. Thats why they made the switch to the Inns as guild headquarters instead of Bases. The Bases remained for the OGs who were there from the start. Same point to your "bUt WhY aRE TheY sPaNish" because Guilds like Templarios were mostly latin-speaking players before their own server launched - and even then most of them remained on the EU Servers playing. I often RPed in these bases for different Guild Events.

Regarding the Skill - they got Server up and running, they got Patches up and running, and they managed to add 5 more quests to the quest log which OG Turtle didnt.

So all in all, the more you complain the more people realise you know jack shi*t about the words coming out of your mouth. God its like the begining of Turtle with all you shills coming from all the toxic god forsaken corners to ruin everyones fun.

On a Last Note: Constructive Criticism is important - but not on a way you present it like its the thing thats gonna end the server. Even if I would want to entertain your ideas on a serious note, i couldnt because you just come off as a scumbag.

[Maaadcheddarrr]

The guild bases are awesome and are very old TurtleWoW history. Each one has its own unique story, layout and design. They are super cool to accidentally discover, go hunting for and using location guides to scout them out and find unique things in the world. Removing them makes no sense, they are so far out of the way most people don't even know they exist.

That's like tearing down something of historical significance just because it's old.

[Bayanni]

I get that this is an RPG, but you're not the main character.

[Rathotdog]

I agree, most of the guild houses look completly out of place.

Especially the spanish speaking ones, complete immersion destroyer.

[Rocksmash]

The guild bases are awesome and are very old TurtleWoW history. Each one has its own unique story, layout and design. They are super cool to accidentally discover, go hunting for and using location guides to scout them out and find unique things in the world. Removing them makes no sense, they are so far out of the way most people don't even know they exist.

That's like tearing down something of historical significance just because it's old.

I agree.

anything that adds uniqueness to the world is a plus, I love finding things like that while questing <3