2026-10-06

[Cariad]

What does this mean, Kestrel? Totemic Mastery has nothing to do with Earth Shield.

From the data that we scraped when doing out 1.18.1 restoration, we found that Totemic Mastery on Turtle WoW 1.18.1 increased the healing of earth shield charges by a flat 15 and so we brought that functionality here. It is a bit odd but that is how it functioned so we updated the tooltip here to match.

Oh wow, that's... weird? Sounds very much like unintended behavior. I appreciate the clarification, though!

[Cariad]

Please do not continue making changes in the same vein as the Tauren totemic slam change. This ability was clearly meant to be something cool and neat for them at early levels and aligning it with the level 40 racial shaman abilities feels like a change only made to satisfy someone's ADHD. Taurens had spirit link, Orcs have ghost wolf, Trolls have hex, and now Taurens just also have the totemic slam crammed into it?

Not an elegant change at all, one of the charms of vanilla are the quirkiness behind certain class/race combos are the boons and the immersion behind it. Do not start designing things like they need to be some math equation or need to be perfectly aligned with other elements.

I don't think there's anything wrong with putting totemic slam at 40, same as hex and GW. It's... not exactly a very impactful button anyway with its abnormally high miss chance meaning you can't rely on the slowing effect until you're higher level and have some (spell?) hit. And it was weird starting a level 1 character with the ability in your spellbook but not on your bar, I bet a lot of fresh shaman didn't even realize they had it. Also weird to do the TB shaman quest at level 40 and unlock... nothing.

[Cysthen]

Not sure if you'll see this but just reaching out. This is Cysthetic from LunaticPTR. Just wanted to inform you that changing Totemic Slam is fundamentally a Lunatic Shaman Nerf that deters from Turtle WoW and we will continue supporting Totemic Slam from base for Tauren Shaman. That said it could easily be included in Windhorn Canyon Content as well for all Shaman Lunatics in the future. Made an account here just to express my concerns with this change. Thank you all and I hope you overcome your recent troubles.

[Kestrel]

Not sure if you'll see this but just reaching out. This is Cysthetic from LunaticPTR. Just wanted to inform you that changing Totemic Slam is fundamentally a Lunatic Shaman Nerf that deters from Turtle WoW and we will continue supporting Totemic Slam from base for Tauren Shaman. That said it could easily be included in Windhorn Canyon Content as well for all Shaman Lunatics in the future. Made an account here just to express my concerns with this change. Thank you all and I hope you overcome your recent troubles.

We would love to explore ways to potentially make it available to those who need it for level 1 lunatic still!

[Cysthen]

Not sure if you'll see this but just reaching out. This is Cysthetic from LunaticPTR. Just wanted to inform you that changing Totemic Slam is fundamentally a Lunatic Shaman Nerf that deters from Turtle WoW and we will continue supporting Totemic Slam from base for Tauren Shaman. That said it could easily be included in Windhorn Canyon Content as well for all Shaman Lunatics in the future. Made an account here just to express my concerns with this change. Thank you all and I hope you overcome your recent troubles.

We would love to explore ways to potentially make it available to those who need it for level 1 lunatic still!

Thanks for the reply! Glad to hear it. If you're confident in the change to Level 40 that's fine and all. We haven't made it further than Gnomeregan yet but it's something we'll keep in mind moving forward in case you all consider utilizing any of that and perhaps Totemic Slam can see a return somehow. I just am a bit defensive of Lunatic Content in general so figured I'd reach out on this one as you might not have been aware of our tool kit. Wish you all the best and mad respect on the preservation efforts. From what I've seen we're all doing great keeping the spirit alive. Have a good one

[Sanwen]

Patch Notes

• Curgle Cranklehop's egg turn-ins in Gadgetzan now grant reputation only with your own faction's city, instead of both a Horde city and Darnassus

Hello Kestrel, could you please reverse this fix? It's a quirky "bug" from the original WoW that adds a touch of fun to the game experience. While it remains invisible to most players, it becomes truly enjoyable for those who invest months in uncovering its uniqueness. Thank you!

[Berdal]

Not sure if you'll see this but just reaching out. This is Cysthetic from LunaticPTR. Just wanted to inform you that changing Totemic Slam is fundamentally a Lunatic Shaman Nerf that deters from Turtle WoW and we will continue supporting Totemic Slam from base for Tauren Shaman. That said it could easily be included in Windhorn Canyon Content as well for all Shaman Lunatics in the future. Made an account here just to express my concerns with this change. Thank you all and I hope you overcome your recent troubles.

Happy to see you pop by Cyst! Cool to know you stay updated

[Cysthen]

Not sure if you'll see this but just reaching out. This is Cysthetic from LunaticPTR. Just wanted to inform you that changing Totemic Slam is fundamentally a Lunatic Shaman Nerf that deters from Turtle WoW and we will continue supporting Totemic Slam from base for Tauren Shaman. That said it could easily be included in Windhorn Canyon Content as well for all Shaman Lunatics in the future. Made an account here just to express my concerns with this change. Thank you all and I hope you overcome your recent troubles.

Happy to see you pop by Cyst! Cool to know you stay updated

My Lunatic senses were tingling is all. Had to fight the nerfs xD

[Galundra]

Hello Kestrel!

Thank you and your team for all your hardwork.

I wanted to know if you would add the rest of the donation items to the shop.
I really want to keep donating and purchase the items I used to have in TWoW, such as the Black/gold version of the Robes of insight, The Gray Deathcharger and the Tmog NPC.

Is adding the rest of the missing donation items in your plans? If so please add them I am more than willing to donate to get them!

Please dont add all items from old Donation Shop.

The Gray Deathcharger is similar to Strat UD mount which is ultra rare.
Tamed Rak'Shiri made the grind to get mount in Wintersrping feel like nothing.
Armored Brown Boar also not deeded, do boaring challenge or farm boar in low lvl dungeon.

Devs already made a post about this, they told us they didnt include Scarlet Charger since they would include in future content.

Hope they continue in this direction, Octowow does not have to be the same as Turtlewow, but BETTER.

You do know there are other mounts that are similar to other rare/unobtainable mounts that are already rare? Such as Tigers and Raptors being available for both factions without having to grind for them
I dont see the negative in adding them since you can still grind for your other mounts, there are people like myself that want to donate to the server but there arent any other items we want except for those.
Having less donation items does not make the game better since if your logic really did apply then why even have donation items at all instead of making all those items obtainable?

I want to support the server by investing in cosmetic items I want for my character since I already bought everything else I wanted from the shop. And unfortunately the server doesnt run on feelings it runs on money and I want to be able to gain a purely cosmetic benefit in exchange for it.

Unfortunately the server DOES run on feelings. That is why many people still play after month+ of DDOS and dont leave to other servers that are using questionable ways to grow, like DDOSing other servers or accepting RMT.

Like i told you before, the DEVS already talked about mounts in the donation shop, Scarlet Charger was not included so it could be part of new content in the future.

This game is run by people playing which keeps population high enough to attract other players, some mounts take a lot of ingame time to get and giving the option in donation shop to buy almost similar ones ruins that.

I really hope they continue in this direction, that is what can mark the difference between Octowow and other servers.

[Bungobeanz]

Please do not continue making changes in the same vein as the Tauren totemic slam change. This ability was clearly meant to be something cool and neat for them at early levels and aligning it with the level 40 racial shaman abilities feels like a change only made to satisfy someone's ADHD. Taurens had spirit link, Orcs have ghost wolf, Trolls have hex, and now Taurens just also have the totemic slam crammed into it?

Not an elegant change at all, one of the charms of vanilla are the quirkiness behind certain class/race combos are the boons and the immersion behind it. Do not start designing things like they need to be some math equation or need to be perfectly aligned with other elements.

I don't think there's anything wrong with putting totemic slam at 40, same as hex and GW. It's... not exactly a very impactful button anyway with its abnormally high miss chance meaning you can't rely on the slowing effect until you're higher level and have some (spell?) hit. And it was weird starting a level 1 character with the ability in your spellbook but not on your bar, I bet a lot of fresh shaman didn't even realize they had it. Also weird to do the TB shaman quest at level 40 and unlock... nothing.

It's a change that is fixing a problem that didn't exist. Enough of those types of changes and you get something that sounds like it makes sense on paper but doesn't feel good anymore. People liked what twow was and "fixing" all these "problems" that nobody had an issue with is inelegant and doesn't serve the devs or the community. The weirdness aspect that you're talking about is exactly one of the kinds of things that made Tauren shamans interesting, it's a quirk, there are a lot of them. Weird is interesting, asymmetry is interesting, it's literally what makes classic worth playing over something like retail where everything is designed with a cookie cutter.