Cult Vibes N'zoth Guild STAY AWAY FROM

[Knifewrench]

The item is agility + stam which are survival hunters #1 stats. and i top the dmg charts yet i dont know itemization? absurd take but okay, we can agree to disagree

Do you have any idea how painful it is for me to have to agree with Knifewench of all people?

I'm sorry but god damn, you're objectively wrong.

This is the helm you're talking about right? Blackstone Crown;
BlackstoneCrown.png


Ok so, I raise you this instead;
Circlet.png


The issue here is that you just don't even understand the game at all it seems. You're being ridiculously selfish, and refuse to acknowledge it. Like that is clearly a BIS Shaman Tank helm and you would be better off with a green that I found on the Auction House. The fact that you double down is just insane to be frank. Like in my guild, we accept pretty much everyone, we're happy to help new players figure things out and learn. Everyone has to start somewhere, but you need to be willing to learn-- and you aren't. Not only are you not willing to learn, but you're doubling down.

the shman tank MC tier helmet or the pvp helmet for them would easily be better as well.

They're actually not even remotely close, again you're just digging yourself a hole here. Here are the examples you're talking about;
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The Shaman Tier 1 set is a DPS set, not a Tank set. The PVP helm is even worse than this. Having 34 Stam,1% Dodge, and an extra 130 armor at this phase is massive for Shaman Tanks who really really really need to stack their Stamina numbers as they don't have a lot of dedicated Tanking pieces to choose from. Survival really doesn't utilize Strength much either, even as Melee you're still wanting Agility, so that piece is basically just a mid 50s green item to you and it's BIS for the Shaman probably until they get their T2.5 out of AQ40.

And to be clear I didn't read any of the screenshots/chatlogs or go through all twelve pages of this nonsense. I don't care about the interpersonal issues, but you're going to continue having interpersonal issues if you don't learn from this.

Without getting into to much name calling yea knife is a bit.. slow for sure however, I think the OP of this is simply saying the helmet was an upgrade the guild decided to give it to someone else (which ended up being better for them) however they didn't win the roll regardless of all the statements anyone would feel cheated there but, life moves on. The main part of this post is clearly the GM's behavior but the people (assuming from Cult Vibes) came in here and made it about the loot more then anything its quite obvious since all the pictures of the behavior makes the dude look like a complete psychopath and they defend him anyways lmao.

Win the role? Brah. The clown hunter isnt suposed to roll and else bshit roll dont count, she didnt win shit but being giga obnoxious prize. Also op cropped all dms, lets see full convo because its almost 100% its not one sided. Give full chat history of both or dont act victim while ragebaiting a gm to say toxic things and crop out ur own insulting dms. Whats next mages randomly rolling on bindings and going "but i won the roll" ? but indeed go call me slow while you lack basic human IQ to even understand basics of the game. Im not sure how you guys managed, but you all make the gm look like the better guy between op and gm with all these actions.

[Mareb18]

Do you have any idea how painful it is for me to have to agree with Knifewench of all people?

I'm sorry but god damn, you're objectively wrong.

This is the helm you're talking about right? Blackstone Crown;
BlackstoneCrown.png


Ok so, I raise you this instead;
Circlet.png


The issue here is that you just don't even understand the game at all it seems. You're being ridiculously selfish, and refuse to acknowledge it. Like that is clearly a BIS Shaman Tank helm and you would be better off with a green that I found on the Auction House. The fact that you double down is just insane to be frank. Like in my guild, we accept pretty much everyone, we're happy to help new players figure things out and learn. Everyone has to start somewhere, but you need to be willing to learn-- and you aren't. Not only are you not willing to learn, but you're doubling down.



They're actually not even remotely close, again you're just digging yourself a hole here. Here are the examples you're talking about;
EnhT1.png



The Shaman Tier 1 set is a DPS set, not a Tank set. The PVP helm is even worse than this. Having 34 Stam,1% Dodge, and an extra 130 armor at this phase is massive for Shaman Tanks who really really really need to stack their Stamina numbers as they don't have a lot of dedicated Tanking pieces to choose from. Survival really doesn't utilize Strength much either, even as Melee you're still wanting Agility, so that piece is basically just a mid 50s green item to you and it's BIS for the Shaman probably until they get their T2.5 out of AQ40.

And to be clear I didn't read any of the screenshots/chatlogs or go through all twelve pages of this nonsense. I don't care about the interpersonal issues, but you're going to continue having interpersonal issues if you don't learn from this.

Without getting into to much name calling yea knife is a bit.. slow for sure however, I think the OP of this is simply saying the helmet was an upgrade the guild decided to give it to someone else (which ended up being better for them) however they didn't win the roll regardless of all the statements anyone would feel cheated there but, life moves on. The main part of this post is clearly the GM's behavior but the people (assuming from Cult Vibes) came in here and made it about the loot more then anything its quite obvious since all the pictures of the behavior makes the dude look like a complete psychopath and they defend him anyways lmao.

Win the role? Brah. The clown hunter isnt suposed to roll and else bshit roll dont count, she didnt win shit but being giga obnoxious prize. Also op cropped all dms, lets see full convo because its almost 100% its not one sided. Give full chat history of both or dont act victim while ragebaiting a gm to say toxic things and crop out ur own insulting dms. Whats next mages randomly rolling on bindings and going "but i won the roll" ? but indeed go call me slow while you lack basic human IQ to even understand basics of the game. Im not sure how you guys managed, but you all make the gm look like the better guy between op and gm with all these actions.

Idk dude I dont really care to keep explaining it lol the guild im in runs smooth and nice with the loot system set in place ive explained and not one person has shit to say negative about it but if you message anyone in cult vibes a majority of their new members will leave seeing this post I can say that for certain. Even with your opinions here its quite obvious how people feel. Your making comparisons that make no sense.. comparing items that cannot be used when the hunter literally could use the item the shaman can just use it better.

[Dudebro]

Just wanted to thank @mareb for being a great recruitment officer - we are now almost 400 guild members - we are starting our 2nd raid team soon. full 40 man NA team complete. ALWAYS RECRUITING KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MAREB

[Honkmcdingus]

LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this thread. 11/10 entertainment. reminds me of REAL O.G. vanilla wow guild drama from 20+ years ago. very good thread. well played everyone, especially the deranged OP. i ate a whole bag of burnt microwave popcorn while reading this.

NOW here are my thoughts as an unbiased, uninvolved third party, who has read the WHOLE thread, including screenshots. Because of my unbiasedness, uninvolvledness, and my general greatness, intelligence, my large manhood, and my experience of being a guild leader and officer in dozens of guilds over my 20 years in the worlds of warcraft i shall declare myself THE JUDGE of this "situation". here are my findings and judgement:

firstly: OP is indeed cringe+wrong+insufferable+loot....greedy.

secondly: "SR + FREE ROLL": there is no such thing as "SR+free roll". nobody does that. thats LITERALLY not a thing. typically groups are advertised as "SR + MS>OS" and if they are not explicitly advertised that way they are IMPLIED and EXPECTED to be that way by any long time/serious/non stupid player. No one wants to go to a raid and see a hunter take a tank item "for pvp" over an actual tank - even an offtank or even just a POTENTIAL tank. absolutely no one wants to see a hunter win tank gear over an actual tank. this goes back to 2004 when it was such a problem that the meme of "thats hunter weapon" emerged as a joke about how every damn hunter wanted every damn weapon that dropped. hunters and loot greed are a tale as old as time. and this is one of the weakest hunter claims i've seen. should have atleast saved your argument to try to get some thunderfury bindings or something. sheesh.

thirdly: this thread is actually toxic/trolling/bad for the community. OP is toxic for trying to manipulate their failed attempt at lootwhoring into an attack on the guild that denied them by creating this thread here and having their 2 whiteknights also post stupid nonsense complaints like" they didnt let me in their lbrs group because they made the group to farm the key gems, its not fair that they wont let me join because i said i want them too!" zzzzzz thats not drama. thats not an issue. that just is what it is. dont like it? lead/start your own group. you arent entitled to join theirs? just trying to stack more 'claims' against this guild. very very weak claims that make OP and their 2 friends seem just more cringe. very obviously cringe too.

fourthly: nobody really cares about 'mean words' or 'toxic messages' in a videogame. especially in private chats/guild chats. if you dont like how someone talks to you, just block them and go play with other people. problem solved. trying to get the whole server/community/GMs to 'agree' with you and 'punish' these people is pathetic and cringe. just block him and move on. thats what 100% of GMs have told me on all wow servers anytime i had a problem with another player's messages. FRANKLY i am extremely surprised this thread hasn't been locked/deleted already. this very thread is toxic and does nothing to improve turtlewow community. its just divisive interpersonal nonsensical drama.

fifthly: guild culture: my own guild has its own culture that i am sure others would consider 'toxic', but we love it, and those that join and dont love it, move on and find a group that fits their vibe. no big deal. but the ones who vibe with us - love it and become longtime friends. not every guild is going to force politically correct speech in all their chats. some do. most dont. thats their decision/guild culture/vibe. good, bad, toxic, mean, trolls, friendly, nice, helpful, hateful, etc. thats the guild's choice. and the hard decisions are left up to the leadership. thats what so cool about guilds - when you find one you mesh with its great. a shared sense of humor, etc. but when someone new comes in and tries to change the guild culture, or police the chat - THAT is actually one of the most toxic things that can happen to a guild. i myself have kicked my own fair share of 'chat police' people from my guilds over the years. no, you arent going to join our guild and then tell us to change how we behave as a group. no guild should allow that. THAT is actually extremely toxic and controlling and somewhat narcissistic to even try.

lastly: i highly await the next episode of this deranged cringe saga over nonsense in my fav 20+ year old game. when can i expect the next issue?


THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS IMPORTANT MATTER.

[Mareb18]

Just wanted to thank @mareb for being a great recruitment officer - we are now almost 400 guild members - we are starting our 2nd raid team soon. full 40 man NA team complete. ALWAYS RECRUITING KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MAREB

Based on all the people I talked out of your guild you guys just spam invites to everyone and anyone. They don't interact with your guild at all but don't worry keep coming here acting like this all doesn't bother you :p.

[Knifewrench]

Just wanted to thank @mareb for being a great recruitment officer - we are now almost 400 guild members - we are starting our 2nd raid team soon. full 40 man NA team complete. ALWAYS RECRUITING KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MAREB

Based on all the people I talked out of your guild you guys just spam invites to everyone and anyone. They don't interact with your guild at all but don't worry keep coming here acting like this all doesn't bother you :p.

Why did u leave out screenshots after numbering em all ? Did one not fancy ur stance and showed you called the gm all kinda slurs?

[Mareb18]

Just wanted to thank @mareb for being a great recruitment officer - we are now almost 400 guild members - we are starting our 2nd raid team soon. full 40 man NA team complete. ALWAYS RECRUITING KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MAREB

Based on all the people I talked out of your guild you guys just spam invites to everyone and anyone. They don't interact with your guild at all but don't worry keep coming here acting like this all doesn't bother you :p.

Why did u leave out screenshots after numbering em all ? Did one not fancy ur stance and showed you called the gm all kinda slurs?

yea the GM's overlooked it thankfully when they checked our PM's and ban warned him for harassing half my guild with multiple accounts.

[Knifewrench]

Based on all the people I talked out of your guild you guys just spam invites to everyone and anyone. They don't interact with your guild at all but don't worry keep coming here acting like this all doesn't bother you :p.

Why did u leave out screenshots after numbering em all ? Did one not fancy ur stance and showed you called the gm all kinda slurs?

yea the GM's overlooked it thankfully when they checked our PM's and ban warned him for harassing half my guild with multiple accounts.

Proof or just more made up false acusations after caught being a server wide disliked lootwhore?

[Mareb18]

Why did u leave out screenshots after numbering em all ? Did one not fancy ur stance and showed you called the gm all kinda slurs?

yea the GM's overlooked it thankfully when they checked our PM's and ban warned him for harassing half my guild with multiple accounts.

Proof or just more made up false acusations after caught being a server wide disliked lootwhore?

Maybe reread the post since you've seem to have already forgotten. I know I called you a bit slow.. but proving me right a few replies later..