No Xfers! & Separate Name Pool !!PVP REALM!!

[Upsilon]

One of my biggest concerns with OctoWoW's planned PvP server launch is the prospect of allowing transfers from the existing PvE realm. The PvE and PvP communities are fundamentally different in what they signed up for — people who rolled on the PvE server made that choice deliberately, and the same is true in reverse for those waiting on Y'Shaarj. Letting characters move across undermines that separation. A player who's been levelling in a risk-free environment arrives on a PvP realm with all the progress and advantages that came without ever facing the threat of open-world PvP, while fresh PvP players who joined specifically for the competitive, open-world experience have to start from scratch. Worse still, if Hardcore characters are permitted to transfer, you've got players who've arguably never even been flagged for PvP arriving on a server built entirely around it — bringing with them whatever gear and gold they accumulated under a completely different ruleset. It skews the playing field from day one and creates an imbalance that's almost impossible to walk back once it's in motion. The whole appeal of a fresh PvP realm is that everyone starts equal — transfers from either the PvE or Hardcore environments completely erode that.

The name pool issue is arguably even more frustrating. OctoWoW already has multiple realms running, and if the PvP server draws from the same name database as the PvE realm rather than maintaining its own independent pool, players wanting to establish an identity on Y'Shaarj could find their preferred names already taken by characters they'll never interact with on a completely different server. In vanilla WoW, your name was your identity — it's how your reputation was built and how your guild knew you. Having that squatted on by a PvE character who has no presence on the PvP realm at all is genuinely annoying, especially for people who've been waiting specifically for the PvP launch and want to carry over a name that means something to them. Each realm should have its own namespace. It's a relatively simple thing to get right, and getting it wrong sends the message that the PvP server is an afterthought bolted onto an existing structure rather than a properly considered launch.

Thanks Upsilon (Probably will be Upsi with the name sharing)

[Rag]

One of my biggest concerns with OctoWoW's planned PvP server launch is the prospect of allowing transfers from the existing PvE realm. The PvE and PvP communities are fundamentally different in what they signed up for — people who rolled on the PvE server made that choice deliberately, and the same is true in reverse for those waiting on Y'Shaarj. Letting characters move across undermines that separation. A player who's been levelling in a risk-free environment arrives on a PvP realm with all the progress and advantages that came without ever facing the threat of open-world PvP, while fresh PvP players who joined specifically for the competitive, open-world experience have to start from scratch. Worse still, if Hardcore characters are permitted to transfer, you've got players who've arguably never even been flagged for PvP arriving on a server built entirely around it — bringing with them whatever gear and gold they accumulated under a completely different ruleset. It skews the playing field from day one and creates an imbalance that's almost impossible to walk back once it's in motion. The whole appeal of a fresh PvP realm is that everyone starts equal — transfers from either the PvE or Hardcore environments completely erode that.

The name pool issue is arguably even more frustrating. OctoWoW already has multiple realms running, and if the PvP server draws from the same name database as the PvE realm rather than maintaining its own independent pool, players wanting to establish an identity on Y'Shaarj could find their preferred names already taken by characters they'll never interact with on a completely different server. In vanilla WoW, your name was your identity — it's how your reputation was built and how your guild knew you. Having that squatted on by a PvE character who has no presence on the PvP realm at all is genuinely annoying, especially for people who've been waiting specifically for the PvP launch and want to carry over a name that means something to them. Each realm should have its own namespace. It's a relatively simple thing to get right, and getting it wrong sends the message that the PvP server is an afterthought bolted onto an existing structure rather than a properly considered launch.

Thanks Upsilon (Probably will be Upsi with the name sharing)

100% agree

[Darktifa]

Transfers from either HC or PvE is something that should be addressed soon
Name sharing on all 3 realms might be a hint to Cross realm BG's


On a sidenote, Devs are HC players
and i bet their vision is to populate the HC realm as much as possible
So, even if we as pvpers don't agree, transfers from HC to pvp gonna be a thing and we should respect it

Cya ll on TA v2

[Kateoverykindo]

Devs have said they want to maintain faction balance on the PVP server. Bit tricky if HC players can just trickle in at will, no?

[N3x3z]

One of my biggest concerns with OctoWoW's planned PvP server launch is the prospect of allowing transfers from the existing PvE realm. The PvE and PvP communities are fundamentally different in what they signed up for — people who rolled on the PvE server made that choice deliberately, and the same is true in reverse for those waiting on Y'Shaarj. Letting characters move across undermines that separation. A player who's been levelling in a risk-free environment arrives on a PvP realm with all the progress and advantages that came without ever facing the threat of open-world PvP, while fresh PvP players who joined specifically for the competitive, open-world experience have to start from scratch. Worse still, if Hardcore characters are permitted to transfer, you've got players who've arguably never even been flagged for PvP arriving on a server built entirely around it — bringing with them whatever gear and gold they accumulated under a completely different ruleset. It skews the playing field from day one and creates an imbalance that's almost impossible to walk back once it's in motion. The whole appeal of a fresh PvP realm is that everyone starts equal — transfers from either the PvE or Hardcore environments completely erode that.

The name pool issue is arguably even more frustrating. OctoWoW already has multiple realms running, and if the PvP server draws from the same name database as the PvE realm rather than maintaining its own independent pool, players wanting to establish an identity on Y'Shaarj could find their preferred names already taken by characters they'll never interact with on a completely different server. In vanilla WoW, your name was your identity — it's how your reputation was built and how your guild knew you. Having that squatted on by a PvE character who has no presence on the PvP realm at all is genuinely annoying, especially for people who've been waiting specifically for the PvP launch and want to carry over a name that means something to them. Each realm should have its own namespace. It's a relatively simple thing to get right, and getting it wrong sends the message that the PvP server is an afterthought bolted onto an existing structure rather than a properly considered launch.

Thanks Upsilon (Probably will be Upsi with the name sharing)

also 100% agree on this, calling this a truely fresh server start is just a joke in the first place if they allow transfers from other realms shortly after release....yes 1month after is fucking short and not a fresh server, even 3 months would be questionable, fake fresh.

[Horyoshi]

100% agree! People are already trying to take advantage by leveling crafting alts and what not. This will hurt economy and personal progress.

Especially 1 month after launch is waaaaay too soon. Should be at least 6 months if the transfer is that big of a must.

[Emp]

Fully agree with this. A few points I'd add:

The economy alone should settle it. PvE transfers don't just bring gear — they bring gold, mats, and stockpiled consumables farmed in an environment where nobody could ever contest them. On a fresh PvP realm the auction house is the early battlefield, and that capital distorts every price from day one. Fresh players aren't just behind on gear, they're priced out of their own economy.
Same with the rank grind — it's meant to start level, with everyone clawing up together. Drop in max-level, raid-geared transfers and you don't get competition, you get farming: established characters harvesting fresh players for honor before the first reset. A lot of those players just won't stick around, and a fresh realm lives or dies on its early population staying.
The Hardcore case is almost self-contradictory: the entire achievement is built on avoiding danger, yet you'd let those characters walk onto a realm whose whole identity is open-world risk — carrying advantages earned specifically by never being exposed to PvP. Fresh means fresh. The moment either the PvE or HC environment bleeds into it, "fresh PvP server" becomes marketing rather than reality — and that's harder to rebuild than a name
pool.

[Zorin]

I agree with Upsilon about names.

[Cedet6d]

Entirely agree with all this. What would make sense would be to have 2 HC realms, 1 PvE and 1 PvP. Cause even if you allow transfers from HC to PvP without transferring bags and bank, it'd still be unfair because leveling on HC without any PvP threat can be so much faster than on PvP through highly contested zones.

I'd definitely be leveling on a HC PvP realm (:

[Shilo]

I fully support the idea of separate name pools for the PvP realm.
For many players, their name is like a business card and a mark of quality that they have built over years on previous projects. A lot of people coming to Y'Shaarj already have names with real weight and history behind them.
If the name pool is shared with the PvE realm, it opens the door to toxic situations: someone can deliberately squat on a competitor’s or old rival’s name on PvE, delete the character later, and recreate it on the PvP realm. This leads to confusion, deceiving friends/guildmates, potential scams, and straight-up griefing.
Meanwhile, players who didn’t play on PvE and came specifically for PvP will lose their established identity and reputation they spent years building. That’s simply unfair.
Each realm should have its own independent name pool. It’s important for a healthy and honest atmosphere on a fresh PvP server.