The Together Forever Challenge

[Ayesha]

You can say this about almost every challenge. Why need an HC challenge/server if you could just promise yourself to delete the character after dying? Or swear to only kill boars and nothing else? Fact is that among all the official challenges we have, there is not a single one that is specifically social in nature.

I think you are ignoring the main point of my post which is: how is levelling together a challenge? What constitutes a challenge? If anything it makes the game easier, so I think it’s not a “challenge” in any way compared to every other challenge we have. in every other challenge your power is limited by the kind of gear you have access to or how you have to face consequences of dying. So again, can you explain what’s the challenge part?

[Schwarzschild]

You can say this about almost every challenge. Why need an HC challenge/server if you could just promise yourself to delete the character after dying? Or swear to only kill boars and nothing else? Fact is that among all the official challenges we have, there is not a single one that is specifically social in nature.

I think you are ignoring the main point of my post which is: how is levelling together a challenge? What constitutes a challenge? If anything it makes the game easier, so I think it’s not a “challenge” in any way compared to every other challenge we have. in every other challenge your power is limited by the kind of gear you have access to or how you have to face consequences of dying. So again, can you explain what’s the challenge part?

The fact that your character cannot gain XP unless they are with their partner character(s) is a handicap. It limits your gameplay choices severely and forces you into specific constraints. Challenge-wise this is somewhat comparable to the Boaring Challenge, which does not make your character weaker but simply limits the ways you can gain XP. Ona different note, Warmode also does not make you weaker but simply adds more dangers to your journey. Therefore, the "challenges should make you weaker" argument falters. Instead, challenges should either add some form of handicap, danger, or consequence. The proposed challenge falls within the handicap category and would be the first challenge that specifically requires social gameplay.

[Ayesha]

The boaring challenge offers a handicap inside the game itself. So you are saying that the handicap is availability of two people? Oh then this handicap is more than balanced out by the fact that if you have someone to play constantly you blast through quests including the elite ones, if you are slightly higher level. So again, I do not see any significant challenge at all about this, no additional difficulty. So it does not deserve any sort of reward or title in my mind.

The boating adventure is mind numbing and extremely boaring, so there is no really any balancing factor to the challenge itself. You are grinding the same mobs, don’t gain xp from quests. Warmode, true it adds difficulty, you have to suffer and spend additional time walking to your corpse if you get ganked. And it acts as an inducement for people to pvp more because pvp community have asked for it. I don’t understand what more incentive people who play together need. The game is already more enjoyable and way way way easier when you playing with someone. So it should be rewarded on top of that?

If it was tied to the hardcore challenge for example, and if the other person dies - your character dies, at least I could see it as a challenge. But as proposed, it doesn’t offer any difficulty and thus does not warrant any sort of reward for making the game easier.

[Schwarzschild]

The boaring challenge offers a handicap inside the game itself. So you are saying that the handicap is availability of two people? Oh then this handicap is more than balanced out by the fact that if you have someone to play constantly you blast through quests including the elite ones, if you are slightly higher level. So again, I do not see any significant challenge at all about this, no additional difficulty. So it does not deserve any sort of reward or title in my mind.

The boating adventure is mind numbing and extremely boaring, so there is no really any balancing factor to the challenge itself. You are grinding the same mobs, don’t gain xp from quests. Warmode, true it adds difficulty, you have to suffer and spend additional time walking to your corpse if you get ganked. And it acts as an inducement for people to pvp more because pvp community have asked for it. I don’t understand what more incentive people who play together need. The game is already more enjoyable and way way way easier when you playing with someone. So it should be rewarded on top of that?

If it was tied to the hardcore challenge for example, and if the other person dies - your character dies, at least I could see it as a challenge. But as proposed, it doesn’t offer any difficulty and thus does not warrant any sort of reward for making the game easier.

Geez, I really fail to see your basic point. What is it that you wanna achieve here? You are saying that, in your personal opinion, challenges have to NOT be fun and that HAVING to play with another person is a bonus and not a handicap. Ok. Now go and run with it In any case, thanks for helping to keep this post active on the top of the forum

[Ayesha]

You are so welcome <3

My basic point is that if you want to have a special reward for a challenge, your gameplay has to be more difficult compared to that of an average player without that challenge. And the limitations have to be within the game itself, not in real life such as at what time of day do you play. Neither of those criteria are met in the proposed challenge. Obviously at the end of the day, it’s developers’ choice whether or not to make something happen. We are just babbling here.

To reiterate, being in a group, makes your game easier. Real life limitations/handicaps such as someone being available or not and at what time should not be part of any challenge, imo.

[Atriana]

I like the idea, i would simplify it to where, you can only gain xp while in a group of your besties as long as you're within 2-3 levels of each other.

[Crimsonclaws]

Although I like the idea. Seems too complicated and convoluted. Challenges should have simple rules.

*clears throat
Ascension did it (on ALL their realms) , Waloria did it, and many more. Clearly it's doable and clearly its a good idea!

[Schwarzschild]

Although I like the idea. Seems too complicated and convoluted. Challenges should have simple rules.

*clears throat
Ascension did it (on ALL their realms) , Waloria did it, and many more. Clearly it's doable and clearly its a good idea!

^That. Although I do somewhat dislike Ascension's plethora of challenges (Ascension's over the top with a lot of things imo). Nevertheless, there should be room for ONE social challenge at the very least. Currently, none of the challenges truly motivate or even require any kind of co-play.

[Archer]

Thank you so much for sharing your idea and creating such a detailed post.
We have implemented this challenge having been inspired by your idea.
As a reward we will be sending you 1000 octo tokens and [Buccaneer Bubbles]

Great work!
Archer

[Schwarzschild]

Thank you so much for sharing your idea and creating such a detailed post.
We have implemented this challenge having been inspired by your idea.
As a reward we will be sending you 1000 octo tokens and [Buccaneer Bubbles]

Great work!
Archer

Woohooo!!!

...What are Buccaneer Bubbles?