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Darkxpunk
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Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#1 » Fri Jul 24, 2026 5:04 pm

Everyone was trolling in world about "Hate Speech", someone stated it is an arbitrary term that isn't defined so it can be used loosely, I agreed, and then suddenly my chat was disabled for 24 hours. I didn't say anything out of turn or in violation of rules, I simply agreed with the intentional ambiguity of the term "Hate Speech" while many other people were actually being edgy and some may define as offencive. I have no idea what is going on, but it feels like the chat ban hammer was thrown a little excessivly... I imagine the time will be up before this is ever read, but maybe address the issue when it happens, rather than just banning the chat of innocent people. Yall kept me from forming groups last night to quest, and ignoring friends messaging me.

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Archer
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#2 » Sat Jul 25, 2026 7:19 am

This is why you were muted.

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2026-07-24 00:35:36 [World:0] Earthhoof:392397:1000005257 : igger, add a W apparently not hate, add and N, very much hate.
2026-07-24 00:36:46 [World:0] Earthhoof:392397:1000005257 : Because hate speech is a myth
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Darkxpunk
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#3 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 5:16 am

I find that funny. First I said that long before the mute, second it is a statement of fact and a proof of the sentiment of much of the chat and myself at the time, that hate speech is an arbitrarily applied term. I feel quite confident countless people have said wigger before without being muted, and frankly I wouldn't want them to be. But to the point of whether I should have been muted, I never targeted anybody with what I wrote and didn't in fact say the "unholy" word. So I still believe the mute was unfounded. But if this is how you guys plan to arbitrarily apply the hate speech term, so be it.

Brighteous
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#4 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:07 am

The term hate speech isn't ambiguous. Sure it varies from country to country but that doesn't make it unknowable/undefinable. The assumption is that if you don't know what hate speech is, then you're likely abetting it. And the kind of speech taking place in our world chat, where this stuff is banned, is not the kind of thought provoking free speech that I studied.

It's a sad backpedal from saying the worst things imagineable to get a reaction, and then falling back on pseudo-intellectualism to excuse this sad behavior in world chat.

In the moment when chat bans are initiated, the GMs are directed to silence everyone participating. So if you're agreeing with the trolls, then that makes you a participant in that moment.

Meisenhexter
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#5 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 6:39 pm

there is nothing more to say....
and the "wordplay" just show how far away you are from understanding the problematic.
good ban.

Defiant
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#6 » Thu Jul 30, 2026 1:36 am

Darkxpunk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2026 5:16 am I find that funny. First I said that long before the mute, second it is a statement of fact and a proof of the sentiment of much of the chat and myself at the time, that hate speech is an arbitrarily applied term. I feel quite confident countless people have said wigger before without being muted, and frankly I wouldn't want them to be. But to the point of whether I should have been muted, I never targeted anybody with what I wrote and didn't in fact say the "unholy" word. So I still believe the mute was unfounded. But if this is how you guys plan to arbitrarily apply the hate speech term, so be it.
I'd start by saying that there isn't a statute of limitations on mutes. The GMs and support staff cannot be watching like a hawk over Chat at all times of the day. Sometimes there are people watching, othertimes they rely on reports.

From my perspective it's very hard if not impossible to set a firm line that everyone can understand because many people choose to purposely misunderstand these things.

Like for example I do to an extent agree with you that intent should be important, you weren't outright calling anyone anything-- but that's how people get around these things and essentially create a chat that no normal people want to be involved in. However, you also added "Because hate speech is a myth" and that to me says you're just out there trying to stir the pot for the sake of stirring the pot. I do believe that there should be nuance in these topics, but claiming that it's a myth has absolutely no nuance, right? It's a very clear statement.

There are entire subreddits and discord servers dedicated to your kind of philosophy, go banter with them. But you don't want to do that, you want to make others uncomfortable and have those conversations in places where they're unwanted.

One final thought, you mentioned "Everyone was trolling". There were likely 1500 people online in that channel at the time. Are you telling me 1500 people were partaking in that conversation? No. It was several people ruining it for the other 1500. Have some respect, mate. I'm not trying to brown nose either, to be clear "hate speech" isn't something that ruffles my feathers, but World chat isn't the place for those conversations.
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Reiker
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#7 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:53 am

Darkxpunk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2026 5:16 am I find that funny. First I said that long before the mute, second it is a statement of fact and a proof of the sentiment of much of the chat and myself at the time, that hate speech is an arbitrarily applied term.
It's not arbitrary unless you've somehow learned zero history or you're a massive racist. Should have been a permaban.

Biggamehunter
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#8 » Wed Aug 05, 2026 12:21 am

Reiker wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:53 am
Darkxpunk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2026 5:16 am I find that funny. First I said that long before the mute, second it is a statement of fact and a proof of the sentiment of much of the chat and myself at the time, that hate speech is an arbitrarily applied term.
It's not arbitrary unless you've somehow learned zero history or you're a massive racist. Should have been a permaban.
Pretty weird take. What would the ban reason be? questioning why the word with the W is ok but the N is bad? At what point are you just getting offended on someone elses behalf, whom of which doesnt even exist?

Reiker
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#9 » Fri Aug 07, 2026 4:50 pm

Biggamehunter wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 12:21 am Pretty weird take. What would the ban reason be?
It's not a weird take, hate speech is derived from a desire to hurt other people. If you can't see that and think that it's "arbitrary" then you're too antisocial for a social video game (and probably society at large tbh).

Sheluvsramar1
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Re: Chat disabled for 24 hours last night

Post#10 » Fri Aug 07, 2026 11:19 pm

Biggamehunter wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 12:21 am
Reiker wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:53 am
Darkxpunk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2026 5:16 am I find that funny. First I said that long before the mute, second it is a statement of fact and a proof of the sentiment of much of the chat and myself at the time, that hate speech is an arbitrarily applied term.
It's not arbitrary unless you've somehow learned zero history or you're a massive racist. Should have been a permaban.
Pretty weird take. What would the ban reason be? questioning why the word with the W is ok but the N is bad? At what point are you just getting offended on someone elses behalf, whom of which doesnt even exist?
A few simple questions I have to ask OP and anyone else trying to justify why this wouldnt be a mute lol.

Do you use this language at work amongst peers & authority?
Do you use this language among family and loved ones?
Do you use this language in public at the bar infront of strangers?

Im willing to bet a large sum of money you're not speaking like this to your mother, your family, nor in a public or professional setting. You dont speak like this while youre playing checkers with a child.

You speak like this behind closed doors, online, & under the veil of anonymity and wordplay, and guise it as 'muh freedum of speech'.

Here's your exact list of freedoms you have.

1) You're free to leave
2) You're free to follow the rules of the private establishment
3) You're free to play the game
4) You're free to disregard 1-3, and fuck around and find out

Proposing this philosophical question of the difference between W and N in world chat is low-tier ragebait, if you had questions about clarification of what's acceptable.. you could maybe.. idk.. make a GM ticket. . . but no, this was done to stir the pot.

When you were a child, did your mother ever accept this answer "Well, what-about so and so? they did it too!?"

No.

P.S im one of the top shitposters in world, have yet to be muted. this is literally a skill issue.

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