Y'shaarj: no point to queue BGs as a new fresh 60

[Nseternal]

currently going up against full pvp geared players PLUS the highly OP reputation/K10 gear. getting 0 honor from BGs and just feeding horde more and more honor = more and more gear disparity.

maybe cross realm BG with a different and more populated playerbase will help instead of fighting the same overgeared R8+ players everyday.

[Therealvda]

my dude, this is not a MOBA
this is an MMORPG
u can still have an impact as fresh 60, but obviously there are better geared players

i can only imagine what you ill suggest when we reach k40 phase

The problem is that BGs barely pop too so you wait 2 hours just to get pubstomped. You can defend that all you like but it will result in people leaving.

We need cross realm BGs yesterday. Waiting 2 hours for a BG is nonsense and screams dead server.

[Nseternal]

my dude, this is not a MOBA
this is an MMORPG
u can still have an impact as fresh 60, but obviously there are better geared players

i can only imagine what you ill suggest when we reach k40 phase

sure, but at the same time it discourages new 60s from queueing. i got to master sergeant rank and am not queuing anymore, it's a joke.

maybe cross realm BG with a bracket system of non-officer and officer rank? let me guess, you have a rank 6+ char?

[Octofart]

Tifa is not a pvper. You can tell by how poor his comprehension ability is. Dont chime in on a topic you know nothing about. And yes bgs are a joke. We horde stomp the allianve every game and now they dont que. Its in a very bad state. This is not just fresh 60s getting owned, its an entire faction. Id try a temporary cross faction for the server for 1 week to see what people thought.

[Octofart]

You seem like the person everyone has to put on ignore in world chat cuz you just cant stfu. Did mommy not hold you enough?

[Niyu]

how is letting that horde feast on pve realm players any better?

way to kill bg's..

if alliance already not queueing on pvp realm because horde are to strong the last thing you do is opening up for that horde to feast on pve realm players.

[Therealvda]

how is letting that horde feast on pve realm players any better?

way to kill bg's..

if alliance already not queueing on pvp realm because horde are to strong the last thing you do is opening up for that horde to feast on pve realm players.

If out of 3500 players we can't get a WSG/AB started then the server is dead and it's time to bury it.

[Knifewrench]

how is letting that horde feast on pve realm players any better?

way to kill bg's..

if alliance already not queueing on pvp realm because horde are to strong the last thing you do is opening up for that horde to feast on pve realm players.

alliance qeue's most of the day there is a bg up. and in that ally bg 1/3 or 1/4 is ex horde players that rolled ally because there is always shorter qeue's on ally side, this been a thing in ta/classic basicly everywhere. because horde is percieved as having pvp advantage so most dumb idiots roll horde and go hurdur look ill have easyer games. meanwhile ally that qeue's doing godswork in keeping the bgs going. everyone from TA knew this would happen and majority of horde chose to still roll on the side with qeue's. this is just a skill issue at this point.
and then u got peeps like tifa in here claiming shit but that man is known to get recked by people in blue's while wearing full t3. he doesnt even know how to pvp, he shouldnt talk in these posts.
tdlr : dont complain about qeue's if u want to play on faction with op shockshams.
like just have pvp dev follow around micayah for a few bgs and then claim its a balanced spec....

[Niyu]

this guy don't seem to understand that for BG's to pop both sides need to have people in the queue and whichever side have less people will have shorter queue.

a problem that only increase if server population rise and faction imbalance remain.

im curious about the real reason so many horde rolled alliance this time around. it's definitely not for shorter queue or the IQ levels are far worse than i ever imagined.

given how horde side is heavily populated on the pvp realm that shed a light on the answer, but i don't think that's the full answer.

and considering how many on the pvp realm deem the realm dead, maybe just merge into the pve. however there was a word of players being there because there's no cross faction BS. so beyond about time to end that bullshit on the pve realm to.

hearing there is no cross realm bg there made it very tempting to roll on the pvp realm, but meeh. it's a pve game first of all.

the end of cross faction BG when?

do you have any idea of how many levels of wrong it is to pop into WSG having to fight for the horde as a night elf? ETC.

it is obvious that turtle devs and the playerbase who supported this have absolutely no idea how to develop the game.

even blizzard ain't that R.

[Nseternal]

per Octo's own census on Y'shaart

50/50 total split between 10-60

total 60s
alliance: 205
horde: 230

this is CLEAR evidence that the imbalances are pvp/faction related and not due to horde having an overwhelming amount of 60s. added to the problem is custom content from turtle where on phase 1 we have gear from mid-game (exalted reputation, K10). turtle wow pvp was historically always highly unbalanced cuz the project is pve-oriented.

@Kestrel, you know what needs to be done. just merge Y'shaart into the pve server. pvp is a FAILED escapade here and will NEVER be balanced due to the nature of turtle and of the vanilla pvp racials.

server first AV last night was an absolute PUBSTOMP by horde who managed to kill both korrak and vandar in an hour. every BG only serves to increase the already wide gear disparity. so i've stopped playing here until a merger.

(and yes shaman is SO BUSTED OP here they carry entire BGs just plowing through alliance with their extreme burst dmg and self-sustain.)