Multibox should be forbidden

[Dinofast]

We have summon bots all over the world negating the aspect of travel and of coming together with our friends for summons. Does anyone really make friends with those guys? If this is the intended way why not just make a 5g NPC that teleports us? What is the difference?

Let me bug my warlock friend to run to the place I want to get summoned to, and have him ask two more players to act as clickers, all for the sake of summoning me. ATP I would just fly there instead. At least with all the summon sellers I am giving gold back to the community instead of flight master npcs.

A main character with the mailbox toy has infinite bag space and a mobile auctioneer all in one due to multibox. This also reduces the amount of sales in the Octo Shop for auctioneers and bags due to this mailbox trick.

You can have more than one character on the same account and send mail to your own characters without the need of having two different accounts to multibox.


edit: Forgot to mention that one of the main reasons Capywow has multiboxxing banned is because they have 10k pop, and they also had aoe farming banned due to how contested all the leveling areas

[Lacrima]

I know this isn’t a poll but please leave things the way they are.

[Defiant]

Ah yes, the newcomers that know better than Turtle did after seven years of successful operation.

[Codeeeen]

Defiant I am literally in your guild and I was for years on TWOW. Your point does nothing to address my concerns, other than showing a bias towards new comers - which I am not. Being a new comer to Octo is not comparable to being a new comer to TWOW. I don't understand the comparison with that point? Or the hostility on forums towards your own guild members.

[Fliponovic]

Defiant I am literally in your guild and I was for years on TWOW. Your point does nothing to address my concerns, other than showing a bias towards new comers - which I am not. Being a new comer to Octo is not comparable to being a new comer to TWOW. I don't understand the comparison with that point? Or the hostility on forums towards your own guild members.

"...but I and many other newcomers"

Lumping yourself in with the newcomers, along with being '"new" to the server at that time after the voting ended.

Multi-boxxers aren't leaving so pick a new thing to criticize and help better the community in others ways besides foaming at the mouth at them like a Shia LaBeouf at Mardi Gras. They aren't your scapegoat for a better OctoWoW.

[Defiant]

Defiant I am literally in your guild and I was for years on TWOW. Your point does nothing to address my concerns, other than showing a bias towards new comers - which I am not. Being a new comer to Octo is not comparable to being a new comer to TWOW. I don't understand the comparison with that point? Or the hostility on forums towards your own guild members.

For me it just boils down to that Turtle was very successful and had a great community and the multiboxing rules that Octo has are taken from there. We're all newcomers in a sense. I played on Turtle for a few years I think and even with that time spent like, I showed up when the server was already wildly popular. I wouldn't feel comfortable even now trying to change some of the core design philosophies. I have a lot of respect for what Turtle built, and I think changes like what you're proposing can have unintended consequences as well. The balance Turtle managed to strike in my opinion feels very good, and I personally don't want to rock that boat.

I don't think my comment was hostile either, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Maaadcheddarrr]

I'm gonna be honest, I didn't read your entire post, but based on the title - agreed. Multiboxing is kind of a shitstain on the world. I stopped leveling my alts because I got tired of clearing through a cave for 15 minutes for some lowbie with a 60 in tow to come steal the named mob I was working towards with one shot. This happens constantly. No one to group up with half the time, no one running dungeons because they're just boosting themselves, etc.

Epoch handled this very poorly, so did TWoW. Enchanting your own shit, having bank alts, etc. isn't really a huge issue, but coming to a server as a new player to be surrounded by people boosting and no one to quest with sucks.

It makes zero sense to allow, trivializes content and takes people out of queues for instances (among many other issues).

edit: I should add the summon bots do seem a bit out of place but don't really bother me that much. It's mostly boosting and interfering with lowbies who are questing and trying to run instances. This is obviously just my opinion.

[Hfm1]

Its THE reason i will quit the server the moment a better option comes around. Its just cheating.

All the sum bots are also terrible experience for a player.

If u say sum stones for dungeons all on the fence in seconds but drillions of bots spamming an summing around the world is ok?

Had people "play" two toons in multiple dungeons too while queuing via LFT or LFG.

I mean one person loots double cause he has two acc's running but can only control one?

Gives the impression of a junk server. U have such good conten (not all def.) and u ruin it by whack shit rules.

Twinks in BG MB while leveling whats next remove bans for RMT?

How does boosting urself fit a social game at all?
Get the shit sorted.

Also funny the people with the sum bots have them on IGNORE cause the shit is so annoying but i have to endure as a new player?

[Defiant]

Had people "play" two toons in multiple dungeons too while queuing via LFT or LFG.

That is against the rules and should be reported.

It's about a lot more than boosting yourself, I multibox and when leveling an alt I generally stay out of peoples way. Maybe not everyone does that, but at the same time while I've been leveling I see mostly just normal people. I don't run into other multiboxers that often, I feel it's a bit overblown to be honest.

For me it's mostly about professions, and I really enjoy the ability to go into Dungeons with two accounts and see what I'm able to do. It's legitimately a lot of fun trying to min max that. It's a different gameplay element that I feel is a nice addition to the game. I doubt I've ever actually bothered anyone with my multiboxing but I do acknowledge that some people are probably more aggressive about pursuing quest mobs and all that. I mean I feel that a lot of multiboxers just mob tag rather than quest, that's what I do anyways, I just find some mobs that aren't contested and farm them.

You can call it cheating I guess but that's just how it's balanced, everyone has the ability to do it, and outside of people maybe being obnoxious in regards to open world quest areas there's a lot more to it than that and I'd hate for some bad actors to get the system removed for the rest of us.

But yeah to be clear, multiboxing in LFT/LFG or BGs is absolutely against the rules and should be reported if it happens. There are a fair amount of limitations to the multiboxing.
https://octowow.st/rules#gameplay-limitations-tab-1
Again I love multiboxing but I fully support you reporting anyone breaking the rules.

[Hfm1]

Had people "play" two toons in multiple dungeons too while queuing via LFT or LFG.

That is against the rules and should be reported.

It's about a lot more than boosting yourself, I multibox and when leveling an alt I generally stay out of peoples way. Maybe not everyone does that, but at the same time while I've been leveling I see mostly just normal people. I don't run into other multiboxers that often, I feel it's a bit overblown to be honest.

For me it's mostly about professions, and I really enjoy the ability to go into Dungeons with two accounts and see what I'm able to do. It's legitimately a lot of fun trying to min max that. It's a different gameplay element that I feel is a nice addition to the game. I doubt I've ever actually bothered anyone with my multiboxing but I do acknowledge that some people are probably more aggressive about pursuing quest mobs and all that. I mean I feel that a lot of multiboxers just mob tag rather than quest, that's what I do anyways, I just find some mobs that aren't contested and farm them.

You can call it cheating I guess but that's just how it's balanced, everyone has the ability to do it, and outside of people maybe being obnoxious in regards to open world quest areas there's a lot more to it than that and I'd hate for some bad actors to get the system removed for the rest of us.

But yeah to be clear, multiboxing in LFT/LFG or BGs is absolutely against the rules and should be reported if it happens. There are a fair amount of limitations to the multiboxing.
https://octowow.st/rules#gameplay-limitations-tab-1
Again I love multiboxing but I fully support you reporting anyone breaking the rules.

U know what i wont do that. I told the player its against rules he insulted me. Days later we talked again and it came out he just went with the google results for: Octo wow multiboxing. That was ofc a summary with all the details left out. So who is to blame here? I think its the ruleset not the player that has to find the fine line between bannable and ok behaviour.

Its not my task to report people for breaking stupid rules. Get rid of the stupid rules make it easy and simple: 1 person = 1 acc at a time.

I was really hoping Octo would take the chance and just be better. But here iam against MB while endless bots farm gold via script by summoning people.

I know the owner of some of these sum bots. I know when hes at work and i know hes making gold while not playing the game. How is that ok but a fishing bot not?

The line drawn by the ruleset is not logical at all and confuses people. The reason i play private servers i cause im sick of bots and boosting services. And here we are getting spammed by sum bots all day long. Shit is just crazy.