Why is there a 20k Honor Cap per week??????

[Knifewrench]

24k for blue 6 piece = little more than one week, it's too little
100k for t2 = 5 weeks, seems about reasonable to me
600k for t3 = 30 weeks is absolutely ridiculous

On top of that, on a progressing server, increased cost for higher tiers doesn't really make sense. You already have the obstacle of first having to farm the lower tier before upgrading, if you start later and are trying to catch up.

So I think we can agree that the amount of weeks necesary to farm t3 gear is too much.
There are two possible solutions: raising the 20k weekly cap, or lowering the prices.

Currently in my experience, on average across a week, 1k honor takes around 1hr of battleground play time, assuming a 50% winrate. Possibly it can be a bit higher, because as of now, we don't have Blood Ring and Thorn Gorge isn't happening, so we are missing out on some bonus days, and also I am playing alliance on N'Zoth so I can't get AV marks for the life of me because every game lasts 2 hrs and horde has 99% winrate, so a little bit more would be possible from the triple turn in.
That means right now to cap out, you have to invest about 20 hrs of play time exclusively for battlegrounds.
I think this amount is perfectly reasonable. That same amount of time would be plenty to raid 2-3 raids a week and to farm your consumeables, which is my measuring stick for this.
On top of this, when raiding, you can get away investing less time in some weeks, strictly raidlogging for 2 or 3 hrs, and still possibly get away with a tier piece in naxx or somewhere else.
If we get proper TG and BR days, we could consider raising the cap to 30k, but what really needs to happen, is an adjustment of prices:

I think every tier should cost around 120k fully, so it takes longer to get the early stages, but overall much less time

The upgrading makes perfect sense so new people actually have gear prog instead of steaight up saving for last tier thats out.
And alot of games use a progresive cap where the total is capped and not on a weekly base, this is to allow people to catch up faster. What does meed fixxing is the set bonus not overlapping between tiers, now u have to upgrade multiple pieces before it worth breaking ur old set. Hell increase honor rate aswell per phase so people can catch up combined with a progresive cap, t2 pvp hits = +50% honor gained, t3 releases another 50% this also combined with a progresive cap lets people catch up while giving current pvpers a reason to bg while bis pvp. Any form of weekly cap just hit new players hard vs old players. Imagine joining when k40 is released and u first gotta lvl 3weeks then farm pvp set gated by 20weeks+ of time limit. Just hop on naxx get full t3 and then farm 800k honor right?

[Nandieb]

I didn’t mean each tier stand alone 120k, but progressively

T1 120k
T2 another 120k (so combined 240k)
Etc

What doesn’t make sense when the server is progressing, and the tiers are gated by content release anyways, to have each tier cost more than the one before
That might make sense on a fully progressed server but not here. Compare that to PvE, that would mean if you do all raids and bis out while they are current content, then a new raid releases, but the new tier set takes considerably more time to get than the one before (which ofc isn’t the case)

[Knifewrench]

I didn’t mean each tier stand alone 120k, but progressively

T1 120k
T2 another 120k (so combined 240k)
Etc

What doesn’t make sense when the server is progressing, and the tiers are gated by content release anyways, to have each tier cost more than the one before
That might make sense on a fully progressed server but not here. Compare that to PvE, that would mean if you do all raids and bis out while they are current content, then a new raid releases, but the new tier set takes considerably more time to get than the one before (which ofc isn’t the case)

How does it make sense on a full progged server? O u got t3 naxx. Better farm 40weeks for a upgrade. It actually makes sense now when u can prefarm and its not progged. Weekly cap just nonsense and gating t1 pvp for 120k honor is also nonsense. Makes people have to spend 3months+ before pvp geared. But what rank are you in pvp atm? Seeing u seem to not understand it.

[Nandieb]

Weekly cap is not nonsense lol
That’s the same as saying raid lockouts are nonsense

There is no end to nolifing in pvp without a cap, that’s why it got introduced in twow
You are the definition of a loud minority

[Knifewrench]

Weekly cap is not nonsense lol
That’s the same as saying raid lockouts are nonsense

There is no end to nolifing in pvp without a cap, that’s why it got introduced in twow
You are the definition of a loud minority

So we just gate all new players from rolling pvp server.... because they cant ever catch up? And i once again ask for ur lvl and rank? Seeing it becoming realy obvious your not pvping, matter of fact we know u didnt make it to lvl 40 yet on ur druid. Also u cant no life with a progresive cap because no lifers have hit the 20k cap every week and they wil still be capped.

[Nandieb]

Weekly cap is not nonsense lol
That’s the same as saying raid lockouts are nonsense

There is no end to nolifing in pvp without a cap, that’s why it got introduced in twow
You are the definition of a loud minority

So we just gate all new players from rolling pvp server.... because they cant ever catch up? And i once again ask for ur lvl and rank? Seeing it becoming realy obvious your not pvping, matter of fact we know u didnt make it to lvl 40 yet on ur druid. Also u cant no life with a progresive cap because no lifers have hit the 20k cap every week and they wil still be capped.

Is your whole line of argument just inventing shit about whoever has a different opinion than you?
I am level 60 and rank 10 lol

And you are obviously using the catch up aspect of removing the cap as a strawman argument when you are at the same time trying to invalidate other opinions as such.

I got nothing against catch up mechanics, but what you are suggesting is essentially that the catch up mechanic should be no-lifing

[Knifewrench]

Weekly cap is not nonsense lol
That’s the same as saying raid lockouts are nonsense

There is no end to nolifing in pvp without a cap, that’s why it got introduced in twow
You are the definition of a loud minority

So we just gate all new players from rolling pvp server.... because they cant ever catch up? And i once again ask for ur lvl and rank? Seeing it becoming realy obvious your not pvping, matter of fact we know u didnt make it to lvl 40 yet on ur druid. Also u cant no life with a progresive cap because no lifers have hit the 20k cap every week and they wil still be capped.

Is your whole line of argument just inventing shit about whoever has a different opinion than you?
I am level 60 and rank 10 lol

And you are obviously using the catch up aspect of removing the cap as a strawman argument when you are at the same time trying to invalidate other opinions as such.

I got nothing against catch up mechanics, but what you are suggesting is essentially that the catch up mechanic should be no-lifing

Show img of lvl60 and r10 because on yshaarj ur char aint 60.