Starting to become worrying that the defense on the other side has already become "You should've known this was a scam!".Nintendods wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 3:09 pmHuh? You donated to 2 month old barely cobbled together server via crypto.Beckett wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 2:32 pm At this point its fair to say some people deserve their money back? If this was just going to end up a completely different project than turtlewow in spirit, then I feel we've been misled.
Thats on you.
New boosting rule
Re: New boosting rule
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Provocation
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Re: New boosting rule
This rule definitely needs to be walked back. As I mentioned to Pig directly about the slow mode nonsense in world chat, Blanket rules and punishment en masse to combat a few people breaking rules is not the way to build a loyal community. I understand that a more individual focus on rule breaking requires more attention, but that is the nature of discipline. If people abuse the boosting mechanic, ban them. Don't punish us for their nonsense. And certainly don't punish the entire community in world chat for voicing displeasure over it. Do better.
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Hordeforsaken
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Re: New boosting rule
This is a bad rule, poorly executed.
We all understand the need to manage RMT, but you can't stamp it out completely. If you really want to stamp it out, then also ban trading between characters, and lock accounts to an IP or machine serial. But who wants to play in that world...
A ban on boosting carries the same "who wants to play here" feeling". Under this boosting rule, I'd be scared of helping anyone lower level than me. "Can you help me with this quest?" No, i might get banned. Drive-by heals or buffs? Nope, might get banned. One of my favorite past-times is running lowbies through dungeons; they're always so happy to run the dungeon and we all have fun. But now? Sorry, might get banned. And if I WERE to get banned for helping lowbies (or myself), I'm sure as hell not going to appeal it, because I shouldn't have to. I'm not going to beg for something that shouldn't have been banned in the first place. Yes, you could narrow the definition of "boosting" to still allow helping others, but... it'd be such a grey area as to not be worth the risk.
[sarcasm]
So congrats on creating a world where players are afraid to help each other or help ourselves for fear of being punished and banned... just to avoid RMT that can't be avoided.
[/sarcasm]
Moreover, my time is valuable, and this rule disrespects my time and other players' time. Self-boosting was how I justified playing as much as i shouldn't. But if I'm going to waste time playing Octo, I draw the line at wasting months leveling every alt over and over and over again. It's just not worth it. Which sucks because I love vanilla wow, love alts, and love end-game.
Then there's the issue of HOW this rule was implemented. No community pre-discussion. No heads-up forum post this will go into effect in x days. No announcement post whatsoever. The only reason I learned about this rule was a random player messaged me in-game. Had he not warned me, I could have been banned for doing something that was perfectly acceptable yesterday. Unfortunately (and likely unintentionally) Octo has sent a message to players loud and clear:
"Play here at your own risk: playing by the rules today may get you permanently banned tomorrow."
Even if you reverse this rule (and it should be reversed ASAP), the stealth manner in which it was implemented will forever be more damaging than the rule itself. It shows poor communication and judgement; two things that are VERY hard to get back once they're lost.
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Octo, I love your eagerness but you're doing too much too fast. Restoring vanilla asap is one thing, but banning long-established gameplay without at LEAST some community discussion is a major mistake. TBH I think you've worked so hard so fast that you don't realize you're EXHAUSTED. Exhaustion leads to poor decisions. Exhaustion + eagerness = defending poor decisions while dismissing common sense.
I hoped the ill-advised road map (and insta-reversal) would have hinted you guys are over-eager exhausted and thus not thinking clearly. And now... low/high level helping is banned for reasons that have nothing to do with helping. Think about that.
Anyway, I suppose I should thank Octo for this rule. I was so time-invested in Octo that I was actually looking at going further and donating crypto (crypto is new to me, so i was learning how to do it), but thankfully this rule snapped me out of it. Instead, I have logged out. And with a heavy sigh, uninstalled the game.
I'm not trying to be dramatic; I'm just a consumer trying to explain this is how you destroy long-term profit. And turn away helpful, rule-following players. And fun.
Damn you (and thank you) for making me quit.
Signed,
Wow vanilla player since 2004
We all understand the need to manage RMT, but you can't stamp it out completely. If you really want to stamp it out, then also ban trading between characters, and lock accounts to an IP or machine serial. But who wants to play in that world...
A ban on boosting carries the same "who wants to play here" feeling". Under this boosting rule, I'd be scared of helping anyone lower level than me. "Can you help me with this quest?" No, i might get banned. Drive-by heals or buffs? Nope, might get banned. One of my favorite past-times is running lowbies through dungeons; they're always so happy to run the dungeon and we all have fun. But now? Sorry, might get banned. And if I WERE to get banned for helping lowbies (or myself), I'm sure as hell not going to appeal it, because I shouldn't have to. I'm not going to beg for something that shouldn't have been banned in the first place. Yes, you could narrow the definition of "boosting" to still allow helping others, but... it'd be such a grey area as to not be worth the risk.
[sarcasm]
So congrats on creating a world where players are afraid to help each other or help ourselves for fear of being punished and banned... just to avoid RMT that can't be avoided.
[/sarcasm]
Moreover, my time is valuable, and this rule disrespects my time and other players' time. Self-boosting was how I justified playing as much as i shouldn't. But if I'm going to waste time playing Octo, I draw the line at wasting months leveling every alt over and over and over again. It's just not worth it. Which sucks because I love vanilla wow, love alts, and love end-game.
Then there's the issue of HOW this rule was implemented. No community pre-discussion. No heads-up forum post this will go into effect in x days. No announcement post whatsoever. The only reason I learned about this rule was a random player messaged me in-game. Had he not warned me, I could have been banned for doing something that was perfectly acceptable yesterday. Unfortunately (and likely unintentionally) Octo has sent a message to players loud and clear:
"Play here at your own risk: playing by the rules today may get you permanently banned tomorrow."
Even if you reverse this rule (and it should be reversed ASAP), the stealth manner in which it was implemented will forever be more damaging than the rule itself. It shows poor communication and judgement; two things that are VERY hard to get back once they're lost.
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Octo, I love your eagerness but you're doing too much too fast. Restoring vanilla asap is one thing, but banning long-established gameplay without at LEAST some community discussion is a major mistake. TBH I think you've worked so hard so fast that you don't realize you're EXHAUSTED. Exhaustion leads to poor decisions. Exhaustion + eagerness = defending poor decisions while dismissing common sense.
I hoped the ill-advised road map (and insta-reversal) would have hinted you guys are over-eager exhausted and thus not thinking clearly. And now... low/high level helping is banned for reasons that have nothing to do with helping. Think about that.
Anyway, I suppose I should thank Octo for this rule. I was so time-invested in Octo that I was actually looking at going further and donating crypto (crypto is new to me, so i was learning how to do it), but thankfully this rule snapped me out of it. Instead, I have logged out. And with a heavy sigh, uninstalled the game.
I'm not trying to be dramatic; I'm just a consumer trying to explain this is how you destroy long-term profit. And turn away helpful, rule-following players. And fun.
Damn you (and thank you) for making me quit.
Signed,
Wow vanilla player since 2004
Re: New boosting rule
Well put Hordeforsaken.
This rule change was implemented in the form of jumping on the server during peak dead hours and saying they are combating an issue nobody knew existed or has even proven exists, giving unclear fuzzy parameters of exactly what sort of "boosting" this entitles, scoffing and belittling the backlash they received publicly in the form of worrying rhetoric that trivializes their own supporters, claiming they have a community consensus that never existed prior, and to top it all off your official fan discord's owner hopped on here and made a complete ass of himself, it's just been a series of reputation damaging moves and you really need to take a moment to step back.
You were given turtlewow's playerbase on a platter, don't squander it dying on the hill of weird and cyclically disproven elitist YoU MuSt KiLl 20 BoAr AsSeS tHe RiGhT WaY attitudes.
This rule change was implemented in the form of jumping on the server during peak dead hours and saying they are combating an issue nobody knew existed or has even proven exists, giving unclear fuzzy parameters of exactly what sort of "boosting" this entitles, scoffing and belittling the backlash they received publicly in the form of worrying rhetoric that trivializes their own supporters, claiming they have a community consensus that never existed prior, and to top it all off your official fan discord's owner hopped on here and made a complete ass of himself, it's just been a series of reputation damaging moves and you really need to take a moment to step back.
You were given turtlewow's playerbase on a platter, don't squander it dying on the hill of weird and cyclically disproven elitist YoU MuSt KiLl 20 BoAr AsSeS tHe RiGhT WaY attitudes.
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Bonejester
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Re: New boosting rule
This genuinely doesn't make sense to me. Its hard to understand what issue you're trying to address that a minority of players is solely responsible for. Not a fan of this change and hope you that you reverse course. It was never an issue on TWoW, I struggle to see how its an issue now. The vague language, the conflicting rules, then random and out of nowhere implementation does not sit well with me at all.
Disappointed that this is being implemented and that the community response is being ignored.
Disappointed that this is being implemented and that the community response is being ignored.
Re: New boosting rule
Seems like a gross oversimplication, a view incompatible with the past, and an entitlement issue. You aren't owed anyone to implement or agree with your suggestion. They may hear you out but if they disagree then they are not obligated to listen.Kuroneko wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 11:49 am >tries to reach out in game: Follow the rules, we don't care
>tries to reach out in forums: We will not consider any of your suggestions
The entitlement in this thread reeks and regardless of how unpopular an executive decision was made, I love seeing crybabies flail and lash out when they get told "no".
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There's no entitlement here. It's showing a clear lack of thinking from Dev/GM side on how to discuss or reach out on feedback.Yarmum wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 10:38 pmSeems like a gross oversimplication, and an entitlement issue. You aren't owed anyone to implement or agree with your suggestion. They may hear you out but if they disagree then they are not obligated to listen.Kuroneko wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 11:49 am >tries to reach out in game: Follow the rules, we don't care
>tries to reach out in forums: We will not consider any of your suggestions
The entitlement in this thread reeks and regardless of how unpopular an executive decision was made, I love seeing crybabies flail and lash out when they get told "no".
Get your head out of your ass and please use your brain even a tiny bit to read and understand the context behind those words, instead of crying entitlement.
It's truly hilarious how anyone opposing this outcry has nothing constructive to say and whines about irrelevant things, grasping at what little they think they can make an epic comeback with. If you don't want to participate in a discussion then get the fuck out
Re: New boosting rule
t. bootlicker with no argument other than "u cry lol".Yarmum wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 10:38 pmSeems like a gross oversimplication, a view incompatible with the past, and an entitlement issue. You aren't owed anyone to implement or agree with your suggestion. They may hear you out but if they disagree then they are not obligated to listen.Kuroneko wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 11:49 am >tries to reach out in game: Follow the rules, we don't care
>tries to reach out in forums: We will not consider any of your suggestions
The entitlement in this thread reeks and regardless of how unpopular an executive decision was made, I love seeing crybabies flail and lash out when they get told "no".
Formulate a point or stay quiet. It's not hard to argue your case.
Re: New boosting rule
Lmao look at the vitriol and namecalling you all are spewing because someone disagrees and you refuse to interact with the game world. Go play on a single player server lmfao, or even better go take a fucking shower and go outside neckbeards.
Re: New boosting rule
>started his post off by namecallingYarmum wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 10:51 pm Lmao look at the vitriol and namecalling you all are spewing because someone disagrees and you refuse to interact with the game world. Go play on a single player server lmfao. Go take a fucking shower and go outside neckbeards.
>whines when others do it back
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