PVP items unavailable on PVP server?

[Crackadia]

Why are pvp loot vendors missing from the PVP yshaarj server?

[Crackadia]

Bump

PvP weapons missing
PvP armor tier 2 and 3 missing
PvP offsets t2 and 3 missing

Thorn Gorge instant disconnect
Blood Ring games do not start but close after lobby

[Crackadia]

Max pvp rank is 10, t2 and t3 sets are removed intentionally

Is there a reason for such a ridiculous decision?

[Knifewrench]

Why are pvp loot vendors missing from the PVP yshaarj server?

Bump when pvps tier per phase? Now its hot mess on progression server

[Kestrel]

Right now the Combatant, Tactician, and Corpsman gear are all available. The remaining Epic quality PvP gear outclasses all PvE content at the moment and thus is restricted until later phases. Releasing all of this gear now would trivialize PvE content.

We will update our roadmap to reflect when this additional PvP gear will become available SOONtm.

As for the rank 10 restrictions Don (our dirrector of PvP) felt it necessary to prevent players from grinding out R14 ahead of time an ensure players who want the R14 rewards need to engage with content when it becomes available later. I could be butchering his reasoning here so take this explanation with a grain of salt.

[Knifewrench]

Right now the Combatant, Tactician, and Corpsman gear are all available. The remaining Epic quality PvP gear outclasses all PvE content at the moment and thus is restricted until later phases. Releasing all of this gear now would trivialize PvE content.

We will update our roadmap to reflect when this additional PvP gear will become available SOONtm.

As for the rank 10 restrictions Don (our dirrector of PvP) felt it necessary to prevent players from grinding out R14 ahead of time an ensure players who want the R14 rewards need to engage with content when it becomes available later. I could be butchering his reasoning here so take this explanation with a grain of salt.

the main issue is there's more pve phases then pvp sets. and if no upgrade in bwl phases pvp gear basicly trash that whole phase.

[Don]

PvE phases roll out in parallel with PvP ranks to keep gear balanced and content evenly distributed.

Why were PvP gear restrictions introduced?
PvP and PvE gears, has 3 Tiers (not counting K40 T3.5). Stats are roughly the same, except PvP items have increased Stamina and Resilience — otherwise, the gear is pretty much identical in level ±.
For example, We unlock all available PvP gear in the current phase (Phase 1: Molten Core, Onyxia). It would be significantly better than the current T1 (MC) and even the upcoming T2 (BWL), making it pointless to run raids and also making them way too easy. BWL would only matter for a few specific BiS items (Tear, DFT, Gem) and that'd be it.
With the current restrictions, you'll be balancing between PvP and PvE gear — getting items from raids and from Honor as each new phase comes out.

Why were PvP rank restrictions introduced?
To upgrade your PvP gear when a new phase drops, you need to raise your PvP rank.
Say players are allowed to reach max rank (R14) in the current phase (Phase 1) — we'd get the same effect as with the gear. As soon as a new phase opens, R14 players would rush to the PvP vendor and buy out all the gear with their stockpiled Honor on day one, without ever needing to actually PvP again.

That's why the restrictions are in place: they keep player activity at a healthy level with each new phase, set new goals, and let everyone progress steadily in both PvP and PvE, without letting anyone grab everything at once. With every phase, you'll have to keep doing PvE raids and PvP fights, earning the new available rank over and over. Sitting on a pile of Honor won't work — if you want better gear, you'll have to get back into BGs. New players who start after certain phases drop won't feel an impossible gap between them and the veterans, and they'll be able to put up a real fight for their gear

Currently, we plan to unlock PvP ranks alongside the PvE phases according to https://octowow.st/roadmap
(subject to change)

Phase 1 (Zul'Gurub) — R11
Phase 2 (Blackwing Lair) — R12
Phase 4 (Ahn'Qiraj) — R13
Phase 6 (Naxxramas) — R14

[Octosephiroth]

PVP items should never be BiS in PVE. This may be a hard pill for some.

[Crackadia]

The remaining Epic quality PvP gear outclasses all PvE content at the moment and thus is restricted until later phases. Releasing all of this gear now would trivialize PvE content.

Is this really going to be a turtle 2.0 with how you're always going to put the PVP server at the shit end of the stick?
There's a bunch of us playing there that don't really care about -already trivial- pve content. We literally clear raids to get 1-2 items that we use in PVP like some trinkets here and there.

The way I see it, right now all the strongest characters on the pvp server are the ones in MC/ony gear so why would I bother playing it and PVPing at all?

Thanks for the reply.

[Dzielkus]

PVP items should never be BiS in PVE. This may be a hard pill for some.

This is tricky, cause in general PvP items lack hit rating which is quite important for PvE for most classes/builds - unless you may get most of % hit needed from talents itself (or skill weapon "quests").
I see here some space for changes.