Warmode HC Realm

[Doskey]

Hello,

Maybe it would be a good idea if only players within ±5 levels could attack and kill each other in Warmode.

At the moment, Warmode mostly allows high-level players to repeatedly kill low-level players. I know it's technically not griefing, but it still feels a little bit creepy.

There would still be a chance of getting ganked, but it would prevent situations where a level 60 player is killing a level 15.

Greetings,

Dossy

[Berdal]

I'd say you can't ENGAGE Open World PvP on HC with a grey level.

[Adesta113]

It's called WORLD cuz it's in world. If you took gun and goes to frontline be ready to be killed by missile. Choosing warmode implies awareness of risk. They already didn't show pvp-on players at /who. You just want free exp for fast leveling? Or title?

[Berdal]

I'm all for giving incentive to engage in Warmode, but it's just not it to have two lvl 60s run around and clean everything. That's sadistic, pathetic, and just sad.

Make so you can't engage in PvP with grey levels on HC, but when a HC dies to PvP they will drop their loot and gold (which they can't bring when/if transferring to PvE/PvP). Maybe also give the killing player a permanent "ear" buff like what Duel to the Death gives on Blizz. So you can even have trophies. There you'll have great incentive to engage in HC PvP, but you can't run around on lvl 60 kill lvl 10-20s in starting areas.

[Adesta113]

I'm all for giving incentive to engage in Warmode, but it's just not it to have two lvl 60s run around and clean everything. That's sadistic, pathetic, and just sad.

Make so you can't engage in PvP with grey levels on HC, but when a HC dies to PvP they will drop their loot and gold (which they can't bring when/if transferring to PvE/PvP). Maybe also give the killing player a permanent "ear" buff like what Duel to the Death gives on Blizz. So you can even have trophies. There you'll have great incentive to engage in HC PvP, but you can't run around on lvl 60 kill lvl 10-20s in starting areas.

What sense to use WARmode w/o war? What you describe, in fact it's BG. Lvl branch, some rewards. Even w/o penalty. But at BG also will be geared twinks and players will be cry that it's unfair. And HC will have own BG... SOONtm (Kestrel if you will see it please give some more hopium with some more precious timing).
In fact if you can't survive Matthew/Dagger it's skill issue. At guild where my toons (both) they have several 50+ wars in WM for horde. Maybe more and others classes, not really watching for them, but two for sure which I can't click+who, so they are WM.

Right now it works like at hardcore. With one life. You goes at war and die? Your choice. Wanna "war" as sport w/o dying? Ask devs about "BGs for HC when?" or remove exp for warmode for HC (by the way hope BGs for HC will not give any exp, or it's easy lvling after 10 lvl. Maybe slow, but absolutely safe for sure).

[Berdal]

Right now it works like at hardcore. With one life. You goes at war and die? Your choice. Wanna "war" as sport w/o dying? Ask devs about "BGs for HC when?" or remove exp for warmode for HC (by the way hope BGs for HC will not give any exp, or it's easy lvling after 10 lvl. Maybe slow, but absolutely safe for sure).

I would have no issue with this, if these high level (sad) griefers couldn't just waltz around scot-free and pick berries... For this system to be functional, those who kill PvP Open World on HC should be added to permanent Warmode (without rewards) upon their first PvP kill. Not like */pvp on + kill lowbie HC + /pvp off*.

Either add HC PvP killers to Warmode (without being able to disable and without Warmode title rewards), or make so you can't engage PvP with grey levels (with added reward you can loot some of their bags/gold and get an ear trophy).

What sense to use WARmode w/o war?

It's not "WARmode" for those griefers that just do /pvp on /pvp off. So your pathetic argument is so invalid it falls in on itself.

[Adesta113]

Don't see any problem with /pvp on-off. There is timer for off it so killer also can be killed by some time. If you can't evade him or kill, it's still skill issue.

At current condition you get reward from even choose warmode (as warmode itself give bonus exp). More reward, more risk. If you didn't agree with it - don't choose warmode. So or +-10 w/o ANY reward (maybe as Exhaustion some strange shit like faster weapon lvling skill while you in challenge), or leave it as is. All cry about warmode only because of reward, moreover - only because of exp bonus. Do you see any poll about Exhaustion? Brewmaster? Any other challenge which gives only title? Even boar guys just killing boars for boar mount and fun. People just choose it and doing it. So for get this exp bonuses use skill and don't die. Or don't cry about this greed skill issue.

[Adesta113]

It's not "WARmode" now for those griefers that just do /pvp on /pvp off. So your pathetic argument is so invalid it falls in on itself.

It's literally frontline lol. At 10 lvl you have gun. Your enemy at 60 lvl have missile. Absolutely WARmode.

[Berdal]

It's not "WARmode" now for those griefers that just do /pvp on /pvp off. So your pathetic argument is so invalid it falls in on itself.

It's literally frontline lol. At 10 lvl you have gun. Your enemy at 60 lvl have missile. Absolutely WARmode.

Well, weird the "missile guy" can't be attacked though... Your analogy is trash and your argument still falls in on itself.

But yeah, instead of the modified Warmode with convoluted caveats, just make a 24hr debuff called "Open Season" or something that prevents disabling of PvP. That's a little less harsh than uncompromising permanent rewardless Warmode.

[Adesta113]

Wdym "can't"? Can't mean CANT. Pvp-off is undetectable bunker, but it exist, so you can find it. This bunker send missile (type /pvp and killing someone). If he smart enoug, he will off pvp, wait for 4 min kill and go to bunker back. But with intelligence (friends list monitoring for locating, friends which will be run around with /tar or even addon for his name, will help to locate this bunker at time he send missile or even when only type /pvp) you can find this bunker and send several yours missile. Madness? Sure. Possible? Yes. Within the rules? Absolutely. But organize such hunt more difficult than simply asking to change server rules and/or settings. So your argument can't not even argument, cuz doesnt correspond to technical capabilities of game mechanics. Lie, in fact. I have argument and I wrote them, explain with examples. You're just looking for a way to punish someone you don't like, but who didn't break any rules.

Such debuff - technical limitation like mute, in fact, punishment for something what allowed by rules (killing hc at warmode allowed it, no matter what lvl). It would be more acceptable to change the PvP off time to 15-30-60 minutes, it will be fair from one side, cuz touch everyone, but from other side more player will be avoiding to go to dung with warmoders. Just yesterday we had heal in warmode. After finishing WC at entrance on the way pala, by heal assumption, use Holy Strike and get PvP-on, w/o typing PvP. 5 min it's just time for going out. But 15? 30?

At twow warmode was crazy rare. Cuz everyone know - you will be ganged. Here is less player, so chance to be ganked much-much lower. But you still CAN be ganked. Why there should be difference ganking by normie or no?