You're welcome to disagree with me but I'm not derailing anything, I'm just sharing my perspective. For example the one screenshot you posted to prove that Horde "dominate" Alliance actually had Alliance with 37 total kills while Horde only had 26. Alliance also only attempted to pick up the Flag a total of one time. I'm not being spiteful, I'm just parsing data. I'd actually like to have a conversation about that but all of your responses have been attempts to insult me-- and now you apparently want me banned altogether. I'm sorry that I've hurt your feelings.Nseternal wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 12:37 am yes, as this would give a reason for the forum admin to mute/ban accounts that come here to do nothing but trolling and derailing of pvp topics. Namely one spiteful person who is aptly named Defiant.
The two servers while separate are very much connected. Any major class balance and general PVP changes being suggested here would ultimately impact the PVE server and our Battlegrounds. Since I engage in PVP that would impact me, and I feel that I deserve to voice my opinion. The same is true in reverse, as the PVP server also has access to PVE content, if you have input on PVE suggestions being made in the PVE subforum I would encourage you to voice your opinion about them.
And sure why not I'll bite. We weren't demanding that you have 0.5 xp rates. We were asking you to stop spamming the forums demanding 2.0 xp rates. There is a distinction. The reality is that you basically already have 2.0 xp rates considering how easy it is to maintain Rested XP at all times. That's what, 1.75 xp rates? But you wanted 2.0 xp rates, which with the rested XP would essentially be what, 3.5 xp rates? Your topics were posted everywhere, in every forum, and you even hijacked multiple Announcement threads. Which is why you faced pushback, because people were tired of the spam.Yotca wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2026 2:06 pm Yes or maybe we should start spamming PvE forum demanding 0.5 xp for them as they did on our topics
Once again pvp server forum for pvp server people, pve trolls still do their dogshit pvp opinion on their own servera forums, stop ur trolling and piss offDefiant wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 2:37 amYou're welcome to disagree with me but I'm not derailing anything, I'm just sharing my perspective. For example the one screenshot you posted to prove that Horde "dominate" Alliance actually had Alliance with 37 total kills while Horde only had 26. Alliance also only attempted to pick up the Flag a total of one time. I'm not being spiteful, I'm just parsing data. I'd actually like to have a conversation about that but all of your responses have been attempts to insult me-- and now you apparently want me banned altogether. I'm sorry that I've hurt your feelings.Nseternal wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 12:37 am yes, as this would give a reason for the forum admin to mute/ban accounts that come here to do nothing but trolling and derailing of pvp topics. Namely one spiteful person who is aptly named Defiant.
And again I had nothing to do with you being banned from my guilds Discord, when one of my officers saw you call me a hateful racial slur within minutes of joining our server he took matters into his own hands. You're more than welcome to file a ban appeal though, just hit me up via DM with a heartfelt apology and all will be forgiven.![]()
The two servers while separate are very much connected. Any major class balance and general PVP changes being suggested here would ultimately impact the PVE server and our Battlegrounds. Since I engage in PVP that would impact me, and I feel that I deserve to voice my opinion. The same is true in reverse, as the PVP server also has access to PVE content, if you have input on PVE suggestions being made in the PVE subforum I would encourage you to voice your opinion about them.
And sure why not I'll bite. We weren't demanding that you have 0.5 xp rates. We were asking you to stop spamming the forums demanding 2.0 xp rates. There is a distinction. The reality is that you basically already have 2.0 xp rates considering how easy it is to maintain Rested XP at all times. That's what, 1.75 xp rates? But you wanted 2.0 xp rates, which with the rested XP would essentially be what, 3.5 xp rates? Your topics were posted everywhere, in every forum, and you even hijacked multiple Announcement threads. Which is why you faced pushback, because people were tired of the spam.Yotca wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2026 2:06 pm Yes or maybe we should start spamming PvE forum demanding 0.5 xp for them as they did on our topics
And your response to all of that is to encourage more spam? Bold strategy cotton.
Bro realy analyzing a scoreboard pretending he knows what went onDefiant wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 2:37 amYou're welcome to disagree with me but I'm not derailing anything, I'm just sharing my perspective. For example the one screenshot you posted to prove that Horde "dominate" Alliance actually had Alliance with 37 total kills while Horde only had 26. Alliance also only attempted to pick up the Flag a total of one time. I'm not being spiteful, I'm just parsing data. I'd actually like to have a conversation about that but all of your responses have been attempts to insult me-- and now you apparently want me banned altogether. I'm sorry that I've hurt your feelings.Nseternal wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 12:37 am yes, as this would give a reason for the forum admin to mute/ban accounts that come here to do nothing but trolling and derailing of pvp topics. Namely one spiteful person who is aptly named Defiant.
And again I had nothing to do with you being banned from my guilds Discord, when one of my officers saw you call me a hateful racial slur within minutes of joining our server he took matters into his own hands. You're more than welcome to file a ban appeal though, just hit me up via DM with a heartfelt apology and all will be forgiven.![]()
The two servers while separate are very much connected. Any major class balance and general PVP changes being suggested here would ultimately impact the PVE server and our Battlegrounds. Since I engage in PVP that would impact me, and I feel that I deserve to voice my opinion. The same is true in reverse, as the PVP server also has access to PVE content, if you have input on PVE suggestions being made in the PVE subforum I would encourage you to voice your opinion about them.
And sure why not I'll bite. We weren't demanding that you have 0.5 xp rates. We were asking you to stop spamming the forums demanding 2.0 xp rates. There is a distinction. The reality is that you basically already have 2.0 xp rates considering how easy it is to maintain Rested XP at all times. That's what, 1.75 xp rates? But you wanted 2.0 xp rates, which with the rested XP would essentially be what, 3.5 xp rates? Your topics were posted everywhere, in every forum, and you even hijacked multiple Announcement threads. Which is why you faced pushback, because people were tired of the spam.Yotca wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2026 2:06 pm Yes or maybe we should start spamming PvE forum demanding 0.5 xp for them as they did on our topics
And your response to all of that is to encourage more spam? Bold strategy cotton.
I don't know precisely what went down, for sure, and killing blows aren't the best metric to judge PVP with. However, when one team has 50% more killing blows that is significant. Even in a tough strugglefest of a WSG you should be able to at least pick up the enemy flag more than once, especially if you have a significant kill lead.Knifewrench wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 3:04 am Bro realy analyzing a scoreboard pretending he knows what went ontypical skillless pve parsing opinoon detected and rejected. And no pve discussion for pvp server goes on pvp forums. 3th time im asking you to read this post. https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489 and then stop trolling us on our servers forum
Ive never been banned in octowow discord stop making stuff up and use the correct forum to post ur bshit.Defiant wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 3:13 amI don't know precisely what went down, for sure, and killing blows aren't the best metric to judge PVP with. However, when one team has 50% more killing blows that is significant. Even in a tough strugglefest of a WSG you should be able to at least pick up the enemy flag more than once, especially if you have a significant kill lead.Knifewrench wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 3:04 am Bro realy analyzing a scoreboard pretending he knows what went ontypical skillless pve parsing opinoon detected and rejected. And no pve discussion for pvp server goes on pvp forums. 3th time im asking you to read this post. https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489 and then stop trolling us on our servers forum
Either way, the phrasing used was that Horde are "Dominating" and I'm sorry but if your team has a 50% lead on kills you're not being dominated.
Screenshots of BGs are a horrible metric anyways, so if you criticize me for talking about killing blows, taking random out of context screenshots as gospel has to be just as bad. That's why I recommended he upload some footage so people can see what exactly is going on and make suggestions for how Alliance can improve.
Oh by the way, did you ever end up getting unbanned from the Octowow Discord? Like sure I recommended segregating you guys but I wouldn't want you outright banned. Everyone deserves a voice, ya know?
I 100% stand by and agree with Defiant.Defiant wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 2:37 amYou're welcome to disagree with me but I'm not derailing anything, I'm just sharing my perspective. For example the one screenshot you posted to prove that Horde "dominate" Alliance actually had Alliance with 37 total kills while Horde only had 26. Alliance also only attempted to pick up the Flag a total of one time. I'm not being spiteful, I'm just parsing data. I'd actually like to have a conversation about that but all of your responses have been attempts to insult me-- and now you apparently want me banned altogether. I'm sorry that I've hurt your feelings.Nseternal wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2026 12:37 am yes, as this would give a reason for the forum admin to mute/ban accounts that come here to do nothing but trolling and derailing of pvp topics. Namely one spiteful person who is aptly named Defiant.
And again I had nothing to do with you being banned from my guilds Discord, when one of my officers saw you call me a hateful racial slur within minutes of joining our server he took matters into his own hands. You're more than welcome to file a ban appeal though, just hit me up via DM with a heartfelt apology and all will be forgiven.![]()
The two servers while separate are very much connected. Any major class balance and general PVP changes being suggested here would ultimately impact the PVE server and our Battlegrounds. Since I engage in PVP that would impact me, and I feel that I deserve to voice my opinion. The same is true in reverse, as the PVP server also has access to PVE content, if you have input on PVE suggestions being made in the PVE subforum I would encourage you to voice your opinion about them.
And sure why not I'll bite. We weren't demanding that you have 0.5 xp rates. We were asking you to stop spamming the forums demanding 2.0 xp rates. There is a distinction. The reality is that you basically already have 2.0 xp rates considering how easy it is to maintain Rested XP at all times. That's what, 1.75 xp rates? But you wanted 2.0 xp rates, which with the rested XP would essentially be what, 3.5 xp rates? Your topics were posted everywhere, in every forum, and you even hijacked multiple Announcement threads. Which is why you faced pushback, because people were tired of the spam.Yotca wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2026 2:06 pm Yes or maybe we should start spamming PvE forum demanding 0.5 xp for them as they did on our topics
And your response to all of that is to encourage more spam? Bold strategy cotton.
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