Shaman Purge CD

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Eamon
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Shaman Purge CD

Post#1 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 1:53 am

Can anyone explain to me why having a shaman with a purge cooldown makes any sense?

Why does purge get a cd but not the paladin dispel or the priest dispel?

Seems very paladin centric

Rtas
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#2 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 2:06 am

Eamon wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 1:53 am Can anyone explain to me why having a shaman with a purge cooldown makes any sense?

Why does purge get a cd but not the paladin dispel or the priest dispel?

Seems very paladin centric
Because Turtle devs were Paladins and got mad when Shamans would purge their shit and remove their blessings. I shit you not Turtle was like "Well either Shmans get a 8sec CD on their Purge, or Paladin blessins can't be dispelled no mo".

Dzielkus
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#3 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 3:17 am

Rtas wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 2:06 am
Eamon wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 1:53 am Can anyone explain to me why having a shaman with a purge cooldown makes any sense?

Why does purge get a cd but not the paladin dispel or the priest dispel?

Seems very paladin centric
Because Turtle devs were Paladins and got mad when Shamans would purge their shit and remove their blessings. I shit you not Turtle was like "Well either Shmans get a 8sec CD on their Purge, or Paladin blessins can't be dispelled no mo".
This, not only blessings but seals also, purging paladin makes him pretty useless and oom him or forcing using 1 ranks.

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Ellinna3601
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#4 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 11:46 am

You look at it the wrong way. You can drop all your totems and a paladin would have to waste an auto attack or judgement per one of your totems. The rate at which he could destroy your totems, even if you were not attacking him at all, is slower than the rate you can drop down all your totems. It's not necessarily the blessings or buffs, but specifically paladin SEALS that purge was nerfed against. Seals make up roughly 50% of paladin DPS without WF, and if you could dispell those seals on CD while he could never fight your totems it would be very unbalanced. I don't have to speak hypothetically here anyway, enhancement shamans destroyed paladins in BGs back then.

Paladin can not get rid of your totems unless he stops attacking you (Almost always the wrong move in 1v1 especially if shaman has grounding, good option in 1vX situations) meanwhile you can get rid 50% of his DPS every 8 seconds at the cost of skipping one GCD. Seems fair.

Priest doesn't have GCD because priest is much more squishy than shaman is and is nowhere bursty as shaman is. If you want 0 second purge CD then totems should be destructible by consecration also.

Sofka
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#5 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 2:44 pm

It's so funny to read when most buffed class is whinning
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#6 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 4:10 pm

Eamon wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 1:53 am Can anyone explain to me why having a shaman with a purge cooldown makes any sense?

Why does purge get a cd but not the paladin dispel or the priest dispel?

Seems very paladin centric
Paladin cant offensivly dispell

Defiant
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#7 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 5:21 pm

Eamon wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 1:53 am Can anyone explain to me why having a shaman with a purge cooldown makes any sense?

Why does purge get a cd but not the paladin dispel or the priest dispel?

Seems very paladin centric
So it was one of the few PVP balance changes Turtle made. They "nerfed" Paladins by increasing the CD on a couple things, but then heavily nerfed Purge which was the main way those abilities would get removed from the Paladin. It was an interesting change, from my perspective it wasn't actually a Paladin nerf like they framed it but actually a Paladin buff. Sure they couldn't cast that ability as often, but after the change once the ability was cast it wasn't nearly as likely to be removed. I can't even remember which Paladin ability was "nerfed" but I do remember laughing about it all at the time like oh yeah that's what you guys call a Paladin nerf hey?
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Ellinna3601
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#8 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:15 pm

Defiant wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 5:21 pm
Eamon wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 1:53 am Can anyone explain to me why having a shaman with a purge cooldown makes any sense?

Why does purge get a cd but not the paladin dispel or the priest dispel?

Seems very paladin centric
So it was one of the few PVP balance changes Turtle made. They "nerfed" Paladins by increasing the CD on a couple things, but then heavily nerfed Purge which was the main way those abilities would get removed from the Paladin. It was an interesting change, from my perspective it wasn't actually a Paladin nerf like they framed it but actually a Paladin buff. Sure they couldn't cast that ability as often, but after the change once the ability was cast it wasn't nearly as likely to be removed. I can't even remember which Paladin ability was "nerfed" but I do remember laughing about it all at the time like oh yeah that's what you guys call a Paladin nerf hey?
The nerf to paladin was huge. Hand of Sacrifice would remove all CC from you whenever your HoS target took damage. It made you immune to CC forever as long as you had one single teammate with you to put hand of sacrifice on. It no longer breaks CC. The reason why this wasn't a well known thing was because most paladin players were retardins and they never used it. You are being disingenuous if you don't think this is a huge nerf.

Eamon
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#9 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 7:33 pm

It honestly just does not make sense. If shamans are overpowered then fix it some other way.

Sofka
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Re: Shaman Purge CD

Post#10 » Sat Aug 22, 2026 8:23 pm

Eamon wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2026 7:33 pm It honestly just does not make sense. If shamans are overpowered then fix it some other way.
Definetely should be.
As rets.

There's two ways for purge - CD or increase mana cost.
Purge was always OP spell cuz some enh with 2k mana can dispell all your shit w/o any problem.
Usually shamans just chasing you and spam purge lol, making all caster classes dummies
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