Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

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Tomisaky
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Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#1 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:06 am

Hi.

I was just singing a German song in Ironforge when GM Robato muted me citing for a reason "hate speech" (What is hate speech anyway?). Is singing not doable in OctoWow?

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Kestrel
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#2 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:27 am

"Give no room to foreign Jews in your realm"

Come on dude.
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Tomisaky
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#3 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:29 am

It was in German. "Gib fremden J**den in deinem Reich nicht Raum". The historical context of the song is relevant. There's nothing offensive about that.

Wubc
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#4 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:59 am

Tomisaky wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:29 am It was in German. "Gib fremden J**den in deinem Reich nicht Raum". The historical context of the song is relevant. There's nothing offensive about that.
Please do inform us of which part of the historical context of it being a quite literal nazi propaganda song makes it better. I would love to hear you try. :D

Dzielkus
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#5 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:22 am

Kestrel wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:27 am "Give no room to foreign Jews in your realm"

Come on dude.
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Adesta113
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#6 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:07 am

Tomisaky wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:06 am Hi.

I was just singing a German song in Ironforge when GM Robato muted me citing for a reason "hate speech" (What is hate speech anyway?). Is singing not doable in OctoWow?
For sure it's hate speech. Ofc I can declare Simonov's poem from WW2 time where says:
"So kill the German...

So kill at least one!
So kill him - and quickly!
As many times as you see him,
That many times - kill him!"

And in context of THAT time it was actual, but today it's also will be hate speech for sure. But I doubt that you even German...

What is hate speech you can ask GPT, Gemini or even just search on the web network called internet. Or check link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Tomisaky
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#7 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:49 pm

Wubc wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:59 am
Tomisaky wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:29 am It was in German. "Gib fremden J**den in deinem Reich nicht Raum". The historical context of the song is relevant. There's nothing offensive about that.
Please do inform us of which part of the historical context of it being a quite literal nazi propaganda song makes it better. I would love to hear you try. :D
It's a song from the 1930's in Germany. Words won't hurt you, don't worry.
Adesta113 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:07 am
Tomisaky wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:06 am Hi.

I was just singing a German song in Ironforge when GM Robato muted me citing for a reason "hate speech" (What is hate speech anyway?). Is singing not doable in OctoWow?
For sure it's hate speech. Ofc I can declare Simonov's poem from WW2 time where says:
"So kill the German...

So kill at least one!
So kill him - and quickly!
As many times as you see him,
That many times - kill him!"

And in context of THAT time it was actual, but today it's also will be hate speech for sure. But I doubt that you even German...

What is hate speech you can ask GPT, Gemini or even just search on the web network called internet. Or check link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech
That's a nice song, thank you for sharing. I appreciate the historical context. No, I wouldn't punish you for writing that. Hate speech is not real.

Wizzle
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#8 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 4:43 pm

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Tomisaky
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#9 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:33 pm

Wizzle wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 4:43 pm “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Interesting quote. You could apply that not only to anti-semites, but to a lot of the discourse nowadays (see woke epidemic for example).

It is also not relevant to this topic.

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Defiant
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Re: Mute appeal (is singing prohibited?)

Post#10 » Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:52 pm

Tomisaky wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:29 am It was in German. "Gib fremden J**den in deinem Reich nicht Raum". The historical context of the song is relevant. There's nothing offensive about that.
It's not about being "offensive" why do you people always need to play dumb?
Tomisaky wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:49 pm
No, I wouldn't punish you for writing that. Hate speech is not real.
It's also not even about hate speech.

The rules are no political chat. Singing politics is still politics. Hate aside. You troglodytes always try to skirt the rules, and it's extremely extremely transparent. You think you're being smart when in reality every single person here sees precisely what you're doing. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect for sure.

Go take your political bullshit to some random Discord server, that's where it belongs-- not world chat. If you keep it up the mutes will escalate to a ban.
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