A response to "Twinks ruin Pvp"

[Ricked69]

Perfect example. The others are the problem. This is again peak narcissism.

You are saying the exact same thing "other people (twinks) are the problem!". Next!

https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php? ... =30#p13095

Like I said earlier (but you probably missed it because you were spamming the thread) - it's more like a kid purposely keeping himself back in high school so he can dominate varsity sports. People are gonna look at you funny. Gotta accept it and not be so defensive about it. That's the correct analogy - not the MMA one you came up with. The MMA one might work if you're in the 60's bracket though.

Its not worth it dude. He didnt even reply once to any argument that was made here. This guy is lost.

[Fatbear]

Perfect example. The others are the problem. This is again peak narcissism.

You are saying the exact same thing "other people (twinks) are the problem!". Next!

https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php? ... =30#p13095

Like I said earlier (but you probably missed it because you were spamming the thread) - it's more like a kid purposely keeping himself back in high school so he can dominate varsity sports. People are gonna look at you funny. Gotta accept it and not be so defensive about it. That's the correct analogy - not the MMA one you came up with. The MMA one might work if you're in the 60's bracket though.

I disagree. It's not the correct analogy at all. "people are gonna look at you funny" oh gosh, please no! not funny looks! You understand at least one of the people here, probably more, doesn't even play low level BGs? They're just here to troll essentially and cry that they're not as good at pvp as players who take the time to be good at pvp.

Your analogy is wrong on it's face because any player in the game can do what I or any twink has done, so it's not a an adult dominating high school kids, everyone is potentially at the same level. And it's not hard, there's no barrier to entry essentially in the 30-39 bracket, because at level 35 you can max all professions. Every player has equal opportunity to put in the effort and get to that point. If they choose not to do that, well that's their choice. I can't force anyone to care about their gear, or amassing consumables, or about the 30-39 pvp bracket, if they choose to great! If they don't, I'm not losing any sleep over it or coming onto the forums to call them a loser.

And to respond to Ricked's most recent zoo noises:

"Its not worth it dude. He didnt even reply once to any argument that was made here. This guy is lost."

I did respond to his arguments, multiple times, he's a liar.

[Ricked69]

You are saying the exact same thing "other people (twinks) are the problem!". Next!

https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php? ... =30#p13095

Like I said earlier (but you probably missed it because you were spamming the thread) - it's more like a kid purposely keeping himself back in high school so he can dominate varsity sports. People are gonna look at you funny. Gotta accept it and not be so defensive about it. That's the correct analogy - not the MMA one you came up with. The MMA one might work if you're in the 60's bracket though.

I disagree. It's not the correct analogy at all. "people are gonna look at you funny" oh gosh, please no! not funny looks! You understand at least one of the people here, probably more, doesn't even play low level BGs? They're just here to troll essentially and cry that they're not as good at pvp as players who take the time to be good at pvp.

Your analogy is wrong on it's face because any player in the game can do what I or any twink has done, so it's not a an adult dominating high school kids, everyone is potentially at the same level. And it's not hard, there's no barrier to entry essentially in the 30-39 bracket, because at level 35 you can max all professions. Every player has equal opportunity to put in the effort and get to that point. If they choose not to do that, well that's their choice. I can't force anyone to care about their gear, or amassing consumables, or about the 30-39 pvp bracket, if they choose to great! If they don't, I'm not losing any sleep over it or coming onto the forums to call them a loser.

And to respond to Ricked's most recent zoo noises:

"Its not worth it dude. He didnt even reply once to any argument that was made here. This guy is lost."

I did respond to his arguments, multiple times, he's a liar.

The other highschool kids could do exactly the same to compete. So the analogy fits.

You are expecting players to do an insane amount of work just to casually have fun at pvp. Instead you could also ask for twinkbgs.

Do this and everyone would take you serious.

[Wizzle]

And by the way, BGs were not designed to help you level up. When they were launched they provided 0 XP. That a perversion that came later.

If you want to level up, go do quests or dungeons, they seem more your speed.

If you used exp lock to achieve your twink's bis, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth here. Did you manage to get all of your gear before the exp you earned would have naturally pushed you out of the lvl bracket, or are you also abusing a "perversion that came later"?

[Fatbear]

https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php? ... =30#p13095

Like I said earlier (but you probably missed it because you were spamming the thread) - it's more like a kid purposely keeping himself back in high school so he can dominate varsity sports. People are gonna look at you funny. Gotta accept it and not be so defensive about it. That's the correct analogy - not the MMA one you came up with. The MMA one might work if you're in the 60's bracket though.

I disagree. It's not the correct analogy at all. "people are gonna look at you funny" oh gosh, please no! not funny looks! You understand at least one of the people here, probably more, doesn't even play low level BGs? They're just here to troll essentially and cry that they're not as good at pvp as players who take the time to be good at pvp.

Your analogy is wrong on it's face because any player in the game can do what I or any twink has done, so it's not a an adult dominating high school kids, everyone is potentially at the same level. And it's not hard, there's no barrier to entry essentially in the 30-39 bracket, because at level 35 you can max all professions. Every player has equal opportunity to put in the effort and get to that point. If they choose not to do that, well that's their choice. I can't force anyone to care about their gear, or amassing consumables, or about the 30-39 pvp bracket, if they choose to great! If they don't, I'm not losing any sleep over it or coming onto the forums to call them a loser.

And to respond to Ricked's most recent zoo noises:

"Its not worth it dude. He didnt even reply once to any argument that was made here. This guy is lost."

I did respond to his arguments, multiple times, he's a liar.

The other highschool kids could do exactly the same to compete. So the analogy fits.

You are expecting players to do an insane amount of work just to casually have fun at pvp. Instead you could also ask for twinkbgs.

Do this and everyone would take you serious.

Ricked, you're just lying. Anyone can read this thread and see I've said multiple times I would prefer twink only BGs.

You're also wrong about the "insane amount of work" needed to be a twink. It's not an insane amount of work. It's easy. Anyone can do it. How fucking bad at the game are you that you don't realize that? Do you farm for gold in low level zones when you're low level? Is that why you think this is hard?

It would take you a week or two to get a 39 twink who can hold its own in the bracket. Stop lying to people. Stop spreading misinformation.

[Uggerbugger]

After all this nonsense, what exactly was the point of this thread? To show people how superior you are at pvp? To laugh at the noobs? To tell other people in the thread they suck at pvp? To pretend that having better gear makes you a better pvp player?

[Fatbear]

And by the way, BGs were not designed to help you level up. When they were launched they provided 0 XP. That a perversion that came later.

If you want to level up, go do quests or dungeons, they seem more your speed.

If you used exp lock to achieve your twink's bis, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth here. Did you manage to get all of your gear before the exp you earned would have naturally pushed you out of the lvl bracket, or are you also abusing a "perversion that came later"?

The XP lock made twinking better, but twinking absolutely existed in the early 2000s. Why are you clowns all talking about using the features that all players have access to to make it seem like twinks are "abusing" something.

You have equal opportunity to do well in BGs, if you choose not to, that's not my fault.

[Ricked69]

I disagree. It's not the correct analogy at all. "people are gonna look at you funny" oh gosh, please no! not funny looks! You understand at least one of the people here, probably more, doesn't even play low level BGs? They're just here to troll essentially and cry that they're not as good at pvp as players who take the time to be good at pvp.

Your analogy is wrong on it's face because any player in the game can do what I or any twink has done, so it's not a an adult dominating high school kids, everyone is potentially at the same level. And it's not hard, there's no barrier to entry essentially in the 30-39 bracket, because at level 35 you can max all professions. Every player has equal opportunity to put in the effort and get to that point. If they choose not to do that, well that's their choice. I can't force anyone to care about their gear, or amassing consumables, or about the 30-39 pvp bracket, if they choose to great! If they don't, I'm not losing any sleep over it or coming onto the forums to call them a loser.

And to respond to Ricked's most recent zoo noises:

"Its not worth it dude. He didnt even reply once to any argument that was made here. This guy is lost."

I did respond to his arguments, multiple times, he's a liar.

The other highschool kids could do exactly the same to compete. So the analogy fits.

You are expecting players to do an insane amount of work just to casually have fun at pvp. Instead you could also ask for twinkbgs.

Do this and everyone would take you serious.

Ricked, you're just lying. Anyone can read this thread and see I've said multiple times I would prefer twink only BGs.

You're also wrong about the "insane amount of work" needed to be a twink. It's not an insane amount of work. It's easy. Anyone can do it. How fucking bad at the game are you that you don't realize that? Do you farm for gold in low level zones when you're low level? Is that why you think this is hard?

It would take you a week or two to get a 39 twink who can hold its own in the bracket. Stop lying to people. Stop spreading misinformation.

Most players just level casually and play the game to have fun. The amount of work you put into it might seem for you nerd as "not much". But you are completely unable to realize the reality of most players.

[Fatbear]

After all this nonsense, what exactly was the point of this thread? To show people how superior you are at pvp? To laugh at the noobs? To tell other people in the thread they suck at pvp? To pretend that having better gear makes you a better pvp player?

To tell any player who's not a meathead like yourself, that twinking is easy and takes very little time to get into and they can do it too instead of spending their time on the forum like a limp dick crying about all the players who are better than them.

Maybe I'll write up a full guide at some point, for how to twink with no lvl 60, farming strategies and gear strats + basic BG strategies because there's a lot of that absent on the server.

[Shadowmak]

If you can dominate a bracket by having far more superior gear, you make the game fun for you but not fun for everyone else. If you think this is worth it then it says it all about you. I don't think there is really point of speaking to you. I hope they put you to twink bracket and you play against equally geared chars. Just please avoid my games, I'd appreciate it.