Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

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Allwynd01
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Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

Post#1 » Tue Jun 30, 2026 5:05 am

Since Goblin NPCs in the world are neutral to both Alliance and Horde, I always viewed them in a way how Blizzard made the Pandaren - they were able to choose if they join either the Horde or the Alliance. I think Goblins should be able to do the same.

It makes sense lore-wise why they want to be natural to both factions - so they can make a larger profit from both. So it also makes sense why a Goblin would want to work for either of them if it aligns with each Goblin's profit making goals.

There should be a quest around level 10 that gives the choice to Goblin players to join either faction after they complete their starting zone. The quest should involve a decision between helping a Horde NPC or an Alliance NPC and after that they get teleported to either Durotar or Elwynn Forest.

I never saw Goblins as only a Horde race and the Vanilla game having them neutral always confirmed it for me. I always viewed Goblins as a flexible race in terms of their loyalties and one that is able to switch such loyalties when money are involved.

Neverath
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Re: Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

Post#2 » Wed Jul 01, 2026 8:20 am

Warcraft 2 and 3 had Goblin units in the Horde baseline, the Alliance didnt.

You are looking at the Goblins as a monolith while the Player Goblins are from a Trade House/Cartel that is associated with the Horde.

And even assuming that they would do that - What would you give Horde in return from the Alliance?

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Crimsonclaws
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Re: Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

Post#3 » Sat Jul 11, 2026 11:35 pm

Allwynd01 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 5:05 am Since Goblin NPCs in the world are neutral to both Alliance and Horde, I always viewed them in a way how Blizzard made the Pandaren - they were able to choose if they join either the Horde or the Alliance. I think Goblins should be able to do the same.

It makes sense lore-wise why they want to be natural to both factions - so they can make a larger profit from both. So it also makes sense why a Goblin would want to work for either of them if it aligns with each Goblin's profit making goals.

There should be a quest around level 10 that gives the choice to Goblin players to join either faction after they complete their starting zone. The quest should involve a decision between helping a Horde NPC or an Alliance NPC and after that they get teleported to either Durotar or Elwynn Forest.

I never saw Goblins as only a Horde race and the Vanilla game having them neutral always confirmed it for me. I always viewed Goblins as a flexible race in terms of their loyalties and one that is able to switch such loyalties when money are involved.
Yes, absolutely.
Neverath wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 8:20 am Warcraft 2 and 3 had Goblin units in the Horde baseline, the Alliance didnt.

You are looking at the Goblins as a monolith while the Player Goblins are from a Trade House/Cartel that is associated with the Horde.

And even assuming that they would do that - What would you give Horde in return from the Alliance?
That is simple, give the fans what they have wanted for years by adding Ogres as a race for the horde!

Allwynd01
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Re: Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

Post#4 » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:03 pm

Neverath wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 8:20 am Warcraft 2 and 3 had Goblin units in the Horde baseline, the Alliance didnt.

You are looking at the Goblins as a monolith while the Player Goblins are from a Trade House/Cartel that is associated with the Horde.

And even assuming that they would do that - What would you give Horde in return from the Alliance?
I don't know what would I give the Horde in terms of a race, but I think making Goblins able to join both factions will make things really cool. I always wanted to play a Goblin but under the Alliance.

I think it might be a fun concept to also have something like in SWG where you can be either Rebel or Empire or remain Neutral and interact with both factions so having a Neutral faction in Octo WoW so you can visit every city in the game without the guards attacking you will be cool, you can join Battlegrounds as either faction and that kind of stuff, I think it will be more difficult than adding a quest that allows Goblins to choose either Alliance of Horde, but it might be cool and fun without ruining the experience of anyone.

Bonecrushaa223
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Re: Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

Post#5 » Tue Jul 14, 2026 8:39 pm

IMO I feel like Night Elves should've been the neutral race that can join either or. Even in the pre-TBC lore, the Night Elves were kinda "just there" and not really part of the Alliance culturally and militarily.

Sartharax
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Re: Goblins to have an option to join both Horde and Alliance

Post#6 » Sun Jul 19, 2026 1:22 pm

I like it the way it is. Goblins are more hordish and high elves are more alliance ish. I never liked when bloodelves became a race for the horde. It disrupts immersion. I think Turtle wow nailed this petfectly.

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