Nerf shamans in PVP

[Duraluminium]

Trinkets, potions - all this stuff cannot be included into PVP class balancing.
Potions cost a lot of gold, trinkets got long cd and you cannot switch them fast enough on bgs (they got 30 sec cd after equipping). When you play vs multiple players on shamans you cannot rely on a trinket or a potion.
Also one can tell that you need a shadow reflect trinket vs warlocks too, you need to use insignia to go out of frost nova or sheep or fear.. And there are only 2 trinket slots sadly.

So stop trying to lure us away from the fact that there are 8-9 shamans per AB on horde side in multiple games. It's not a coincidence.

Trinkets and consumes are a huge part of pvp on this server and on classic and if you dont want to adapt to the scene then that's your problem.

If you don't want to read, it's your problem.
I will repeat just what I stated above: trinkets and consumes got long cds and cannot be used often enough on bgs. Nobody really cares of PVP balance in duels as it is unachievable.
What I care is shaman tanks being OP, they need a huge nerf in PVP.

[Padatoo]

Same thing every day - BG's full of this broken class that comes as 3 in 1.

Why should anyone play a mage or warrior or priest when he can be a shaman 3 in 1 - be a tanky self healing warrior that does higher spell dmg burst then mages do?

[Bendarenfgdgdeg]

I play on N'Zoth and can honestly say I havent played against too many shamans, and Im soon exhalted with AB. Paladins are extremely over represented though - and hunters are insane.
Mages are soooooo easy to kill, if you can target them before everyone else
A few shammys are insane too, but me myself havent really been bothered with them.. aint that many.

[Fraz]

Trinkets, potions - all this stuff cannot be included into PVP class balancing.
Potions cost a lot of gold, trinkets got long cd and you cannot switch them fast enough on bgs (they got 30 sec cd after equipping). When you play vs multiple players on shamans you cannot rely on a trinket or a potion.
Also one can tell that you need a shadow reflect trinket vs warlocks too, you need to use insignia to go out of frost nova or sheep or fear.. And there are only 2 trinket slots sadly.

So stop trying to lure us away from the fact that there are 8-9 shamans per AB on horde side in multiple games. It's not a coincidence.

Trinkets and consumes are a huge part of pvp on this server and on classic and if you dont want to adapt to the scene then that's your problem.

If you don't want to read, it's your problem.
I will repeat just what I stated above: trinkets and consumes got long cds and cannot be used often enough on bgs. Nobody really cares of PVP balance in duels as it is unachievable.
What I care is shaman tanks being OP, they need a huge nerf in PVP.

As you said your self in another post: I am only level 48 so far, yet I have already got many trinkets including AGM, Tidal Charm, Engineering trinkets; various gear switches like rocket boots, lw sprint boots, spider belt and more. For consumes I am already stacking up my bank slowly. In TA my whole bank was full of stacks upon stacks of potions and consumes for PvP.

Playing with and without gear switches and consumes is night and day: PvP can get expensive really fast and just like high end raiders chug consumes like candy, so do high end PvPers.

This is my last comment, good luck to you and I wish you all the best.

[Therealvda]

Quit crying and start trying.

Stop defending a broken class, noob. Shaman makes up 10% of all lvl 60 characters despite being faction locked. That's not a coincidence.

Following your logics we should surely nerf warrior, because majority of N'Zoth are warriors.
Wonder what caused that over-representation
... any ideas?

Warrior can be on both factions you absolute clown.

[Dzielkus]

Stop defending a broken class, noob. Shaman makes up 10% of all lvl 60 characters despite being faction locked. That's not a coincidence.

Following your logics we should surely nerf warrior, because majority of N'Zoth are warriors.
Wonder what caused that over-representation
... any ideas?

Warrior can be on both factions you absolute clown.

Right, show me this 10% of shamans.
Here you have:
https://octowow.st/player-census

For both pvp and pve realm the most common class are (1 lvls exluded):
- hunter
-paladin (16% active 60 on pve realm )
-warrior
-rogues
Those are most imbalanced classes needed nerfs for now.
Your welcome, you whole circus.

[Yotca]

Following your logics we should surely nerf warrior, because majority of N'Zoth are warriors.
Wonder what caused that over-representation
... any ideas?

Warrior can be on both factions you absolute clown.

Right, show me this 10% of shamans.
Here you have:
https://octowow.st/player-census

For both pvp and pve realm the most common class are (1 lvls exluded):
- hunter
-paladin (16% active 60 on pve realm )
-warrior
-rogues
Those are most imbalanced classes needed nerfs for now.
Your welcome, you whole circus.

[Therealvda]

Following your logics we should surely nerf warrior, because majority of N'Zoth are warriors.
Wonder what caused that over-representation
... any ideas?

Warrior can be on both factions you absolute clown.

Right, show me this 10% of shamans.
Here you have:
https://octowow.st/player-census

For both pvp and pve realm the most common class are (1 lvls exluded):
- hunter
-paladin (16% active 60 on pve realm )
-warrior
-rogues
Those are most imbalanced classes needed nerfs for now.
Your welcome, you whole circus.

I am obviously looking at level 60s you goof.

[Knifewrench]

Dispel shocks and ghost wolf, kill totems, burn mana, kick any nature spell to lock out healing, slow and kite outside of shock range, free action potion...

Frost reflector trinket will wreck plenty of shamans on its own as well.

Yeah spend 10 seconds dispelling buffs and killing Totems doing 0 dmg to the Shaman while the Shaman chunks you for 50% of your HP with a melee.

dont forget you should stay at 30+ yard range aswell

[Dzielkus]

for all f**ckers who wish to nerf anything. pvp isn't playable with this kind of shit: