Nerf shamans in PVP

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Spicyahi
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#31 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 4:16 pm

Duraluminium wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2026 6:02 am
Spicyahi wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:52 pm
Duraluminium wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 10:54 am Trinkets, potions - all this stuff cannot be included into PVP class balancing.
Potions cost a lot of gold, trinkets got long cd and you cannot switch them fast enough on bgs (they got 30 sec cd after equipping). When you play vs multiple players on shamans you cannot rely on a trinket or a potion.
Also one can tell that you need a shadow reflect trinket vs warlocks too, you need to use insignia to go out of frost nova or sheep or fear.. And there are only 2 trinket slots sadly.

So stop trying to lure us away from the fact that there are 8-9 shamans per AB on horde side in multiple games. It's not a coincidence.
Trinkets and consumes are a huge part of pvp on this server and on classic and if you dont want to adapt to the scene then that's your problem.
If you don't want to read, it's your problem.
I will repeat just what I stated above: trinkets and consumes got long cds and cannot be used often enough on bgs. Nobody really cares of PVP balance in duels as it is unachievable.
What I care is shaman tanks being OP, they need a huge nerf in PVP.
Every time someone says something contrary to your beliefs your throw a tantrum.

Git gud, noob. Get the addon item rack and queue trinket swaps, use potions at good times, learn to kite shamans (it's easy), etc etc

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Duraluminium
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#32 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:02 pm

Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 4:16 pm Every time someone says something contrary to your beliefs your throw a tantrum.

Git gud, noob. Get the addon item rack and queue trinket swaps, use potions at good times, learn to kite shamans (it's easy), etc etc
Every time someone tells based things about long cds for trinkets and consumables, a long 30-sec cd after trinkets swap, 5 min cd on reflect trinkets, etc, I see crying trolls like you telling 'git gud' with no real arguments to counter these facts.
BG is not a duel - if you see a shaman approaching, you got no time to wait for these cds. And everybody understands that.

Spicyahi
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#33 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:45 pm

Duraluminium wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:02 pm
Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 4:16 pm Every time someone says something contrary to your beliefs your throw a tantrum.

Git gud, noob. Get the addon item rack and queue trinket swaps, use potions at good times, learn to kite shamans (it's easy), etc etc
Every time someone tells based things about long cds for trinkets and consumables, a long 30-sec cd after trinkets swap, 5 min cd on reflect trinkets, etc, I see crying trolls like you telling 'git gud' with no real arguments to counter these facts.
BG is not a duel - if you see a shaman approaching, you got no time to wait for these cds. And everybody understands that.
Most class based CDs are on a 2-5 minute cooldown as well. You just dont press those buttons? Paladin shouldn't use hammer because it's 1 minute cd???? BGs last 20-45 minutes....

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Duraluminium
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#34 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 6:31 pm

Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:45 pm
Duraluminium wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:02 pm
Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 4:16 pm Every time someone says something contrary to your beliefs your throw a tantrum.

Git gud, noob. Get the addon item rack and queue trinket swaps, use potions at good times, learn to kite shamans (it's easy), etc etc
Every time someone tells based things about long cds for trinkets and consumables, a long 30-sec cd after trinkets swap, 5 min cd on reflect trinkets, etc, I see crying trolls like you telling 'git gud' with no real arguments to counter these facts.
BG is not a duel - if you see a shaman approaching, you got no time to wait for these cds. And everybody understands that.
Most class based CDs are on a 2-5 minute cooldown as well. You just dont press those buttons? Paladin shouldn't use hammer because it's 1 minute cd???? BGs last 20-45 minutes....
You cannot seriously talk of countering 8 shamans with one trinket with 5 min cd, that also needs to be equipped in advance with 30 sec cd and out of combat

Spicyahi
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#35 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 7:05 pm

Duraluminium wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 6:31 pm
Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:45 pm
Duraluminium wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:02 pm

Every time someone tells based things about long cds for trinkets and consumables, a long 30-sec cd after trinkets swap, 5 min cd on reflect trinkets, etc, I see crying trolls like you telling 'git gud' with no real arguments to counter these facts.
BG is not a duel - if you see a shaman approaching, you got no time to wait for these cds. And everybody understands that.
Most class based CDs are on a 2-5 minute cooldown as well. You just dont press those buttons? Paladin shouldn't use hammer because it's 1 minute cd???? BGs last 20-45 minutes....
You cannot seriously talk of countering 8 shamans with one trinket with 5 min cd, that also needs to be equipped in advance with 30 sec cd and out of combat
Hope to see you soon for the free honor :mrgreen:

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Duraluminium
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#36 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:04 pm

Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 7:05 pm
Duraluminium wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 6:31 pm
Spicyahi wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:45 pm

Most class based CDs are on a 2-5 minute cooldown as well. You just dont press those buttons? Paladin shouldn't use hammer because it's 1 minute cd???? BGs last 20-45 minutes....
You cannot seriously talk of countering 8 shamans with one trinket with 5 min cd, that also needs to be equipped in advance with 30 sec cd and out of combat
Hope to see you soon for the free honor :mrgreen:
Ok bring me my hard earned honor

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Duraluminium
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#37 » Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:05 pm

Another AB, 4/10 of horde players are shamans
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Duraluminium
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#38 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:46 am

WSG 4/8 shamans
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Dzielkus
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#39 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:47 am

Duraluminium wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:46 am WSG 4/8 shamans
Its one sided manipulation.
Show second team comp - wasnt it 6x palas?

Despite being faction restricted paladin is most common class - nerf paladins.

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Duraluminium
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Re: Nerf shamans in PVP

Post#40 » Wed Jul 29, 2026 8:54 am

Sure bud, 2 palas there.
If you look at the server class statistics, you will realize, that shamans are the most represented class per faction, and palas are not even 2nd.

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