2026-07-29

[Moonchee]

There was also a supposed poll supposed to be taken this week about 2xp and that never happened

[Berdal]

So just to confirm, your issue is not this nerf, but that all EXP is too slow? You just want faster leveling you don't want BG's to give 50% more exp than all other sources?

Only thing I miss is the original 2x Rested XP rate.

I deeply enjoy the classic paced game and the amazing custom content. However, between leveling yet again on a new pserver and the numerous alts... I think it's a welcomed and balanced minor charge to restore to the OG Rested rate

[Kestrel]

We've been asking for 2xp since the start. HONOR TEL'ABIM the way it used to be.

This new nerf is going backwards of what the pvp playerbase has been asking for. Please keep those pve changes to the pve server.

2xP would help alliviate this new change.

Yeah some people have been asking for that, many have not. Increasing EXP rates is something we don't think is healthy for the server. Perhaps we are wrong, but clearly Tel'Abim had some issues with it. There is one way to find out and the answer is not to listen to the loudest people on the forums who just say "server will die without 2x! We just want to be lvl 60!".

[Berdal]

If you want to do BG's to level, it very much solely depends on whether more players (specifically of your level range) have the incentive to do the same. On a low pop server, where queue times are already high, this nerf pretty much stabs that incentive in the back...repeatedly

I'd say valid concern, but the answer is cross-realm BGs.

¡To the Pollster we go!

[Kestrel]

Only thing I miss is the original 2x Rested XP rate.

I deeply enjoy the classic paced game and the amazing custom content. However, between leveling yet again on a new pserver and the numerous alts... I think it's a welcomed and balanced minor charge to restore to the OG Rested rate

That I tend to agree with you on, the development team is not a monolith and we have disagreements internally as well. This door has not been fully closed and may be a change we make some day.

[Zvyrhol]

Is the pvp exp change really necessary? Just because it's better than questing xp/hr doesn't mean you should nerf it, are you going to nerf aoe levelling as well because it's faster? People are actually pvping for once and you do something that will gut it

Yes, at least for 40-49 and 50-59 brackets the leveling was too good. It caused some PvPers to stay at 59 lv because PvPing in that bracket was more active while 60 bracket wasn't as alive as it could be. It was the Ambershire problem, too, on Turtle WoW.

[Moonchee]

We've been asking for 2xp since the start. HONOR TEL'ABIM the way it used to be.

This new nerf is going backwards of what the pvp playerbase has been asking for. Please keep those pve changes to the pve server.

2xP would help alliviate this new change.

Yeah some people have been asking for that, many have not. Increasing EXP rates is something we don't think is healthy for the server. Perhaps we are wrong, but clearly Tel'Abim had some issues with it. There is one way to find out and the answer is not to listen to the loudest people on the forums who just say "server will die without 2x! We just want to be lvl 60!".

Welp, you've clearly pissed off a bunch of people so, I hope those who are asking for slow rates are truely the majority because this isn't gonna help grow the PVP server at all.

[Xallog2]

Is the pvp exp change really necessary? Just because it's better than questing xp/hr doesn't mean you should nerf it, are you going to nerf aoe levelling as well because it's faster? People are actually pvping for once and you do something that will gut it

Yes, at least for 40-49 and 50-59 brackets the leveling was too good. It caused some PvPers to stay at 59 lv because PvPing in that bracket was more active while 60 bracket wasn't as alive as it could be. It was the Ambershire problem, too, on Turtle WoW.

So because people were twinking, this is a bad thing? Lol.

[Yotca]

Yeah some people have been asking for that, many have not. Increasing EXP rates is something we don't think is healthy for the server. Perhaps we are wrong, but clearly Tel'Abim had some issues with it. There is one way to find out and the answer is not to listen to the loudest people on the forums who just say "server will die without 2x! We just want to be lvl 60!".

https://imgur.com/a/PrlX9sm

To give you an idea Kestrel ; "the loudest people on the forums" kinda answer isn't one you can pull with us because you're fully disconnected from the actual community on the PvP server. We are not.

The "community" discord would have you guys on the guillotine if this was 1789 France. I can also pull up the largest PvP server horde guild discord <Care Bears> (they're 50% of horde and that's not a figure of speech) and they all want 2x ; their GM/officer team has explicitly stated it multiple times on the forums here — they're the MC clear horde side — I can pull up from my guild <Sons of Mukla>'s discord and we all want 2x — we're the largest alliance side guild and the MC clear alliance side ; most members in CB or SoM aren't 60 yet and would very much like to join the rest of us.

The messages you see are normal reactions because none of us want to grind through shit over and over again more so when the values aren't what we were used to — to you guys being so tone deaf.

The PvP server has many players that very much would like to join but are put off by the grind and the idea that they'd have to constantly get ganked in their starter zones by unhinged level 60's due to permanent Warmode making them low hanging fruit for shits and giggles from cognitively impaired griefers which the PvE server doesn't have to deal with.

You guys trying to be some "fresh" version of Twow is a delusional mindset and you further cripple yourselves with not only bad faith replies but straight up misconstruing what the players actually want.
Capy has already or is restoring saved character data from the SEA servers and no one is complaining about it because that's exactly what people want.

We're fine with a lot of things like having to go through MC/Ony/BWL/AQ/Naxx again to reach K40 and other end game raids like TMH or whatever you guys have in store for us and we're seriously thankful that you guys have endeavored to restore Twow, but this is a different thing altogether!

You're currently the only "low ping option" in EU but with how you're currently managing things if Capy opens an EU server you will lose nearly the entire player base within a few months.

Maybe grinding new character after new character is your thing... maybe your character being permanently deleted is your thing too ; we want to play the end game for most of us be it PvP or raids! We've already cleared MC but so many players are so far behind in leveling that they're getting discouraged and you just added an extra layer on top of already existing problems.

No one is asking for a free level 60 boost — that was never mentioned by anyone, why even bring that up as an attempted argument? That's strawmanning and sophistry.

I'm exclusively talking about the PvP server here and want to make that extra clear.

[Moonchee]

We've been asking for 2xp since the start. HONOR TEL'ABIM the way it used to be.

This new nerf is going backwards of what the pvp playerbase has been asking for. Please keep those pve changes to the pve server.

2xP would help alliviate this new change.

Yeah some people have been asking for that, many have not. Increasing EXP rates is something we don't think is healthy for the server. Perhaps we are wrong, but clearly Tel'Abim had some issues with it. There is one way to find out and the answer is not to listen to the loudest people on the forums who just say "server will die without 2x! We just want to be lvl 60!".

if you ran a poll you'd find out whose the majority in the 2xp vs 1xp on the PvP server. People don't usually come in here and voice their opinions, they all usually do it on discord.

Nice to know y'all arent considering players thoughts and instead are going with what you all assume is best for the PvP server.