2026-07-29

[Yotca]

Why do elites give around 40% outdoors compared to twow?, guess fastest exp now is back to finding a dense mob zone and just mindlessly farm. Because it wil be faster the questing, traveling around is in general a giga waste of time if u just wanna complete the tutorial most of us have done over 40times already. We aint new players. I didnt even enter 1/2 the new zones on twow because guess what, its not interesting content. Its a real shame twow didnt use all they added for 60 content so people would wanna actually do it.

Going off their very own logic they're going to make levelling boring as fuck by nerfing aoe levelling. They can say AB is faster but I don't really trust how they got their questing exp/hr.

Because they based it on AB's where you get at least 1500 ressources and not being 0-3ed in WSG

[Yotca]

@Kestrel:
You've overdone it with the lashers - this is like a 80% nerf on drop rates. Herb prices has already skyrocketed, and the server is still fragile in population and income for people just starting to raid.

For a player experience, the abundance of herbs meant herbs were worth very little - worked great for consumes.

I would strongly consider revising if the nerf wasn't too much.

More nerfs they don't understand hurt the overall server economy.

• Tons of herbs from lasher farm = cheap herbs for everyone and decent gold for the farmers
• Reduced drops = expensive herbs for everyone but roughly the same gold for the farmers since they sell less but more expensive

Kestrel at this rate you might as well re-introduce world buffs and make our lives a tad more miserable... again!
The players are not young 15-20-25 year olds who are either students or unemployed. This is 2026 and people value their time. Every change you've made so far takes away from our time and from playing the actual game.

[Xallog2]

@Kestrel:
You've overdone it with the lashers - this is like a 80% nerf on drop rates. Herb prices has already skyrocketed, and the server is still fragile in population and income for people just starting to raid.

For a player experience, the abundance of herbs meant herbs were worth very little - worked great for consumes.

I would strongly consider revising if the nerf wasn't too much.

More nerfs they don't understand hurt the overall server economy.

• Tons of herbs from lasher farm = cheap herbs for everyone and decent gold for the farmers
• Reduced drops = expensive herbs for everyone but roughly the same gold for the farmers since they sell less but more expensive

Lashers are another braindead decision yeah, don't really get the point of making herbs more expensive. Can they make a change that people actually like?

[Knifewrench]

Why people hellbent on 1x exp to do useless content people done 40x but complaing their repetetive braindead overtuned twow herbfarm got nerfed, literly least important topic going on right now. And u donr even have to consume in current pve unless only thing ur playing for is meaningless parses . Must be some pve take i dont understand.

[Xallog2]

Why people hellbent on 1x exp to do useless content people done 40x but complaing their repetetive braindead overtuned twow herbfarm got nerfed, literly least important topic going on right now. And u donr even have to consume in current pve unless only thing ur playing for is meaningless parses . Must be some pve take i dont understand.

The people complaining about lashers are same ones complaining about the exp change, but you can't read so.

[Duraluminium]

The players are not young 15-20-25 year olds who are either students or unemployed. This is 2026 and people value their time. Every change you've made so far takes away from our time and from playing the actual game.

This is what really makes me sad.
The game is not new, we all know what we want from it. For those who picked the PVP server with warmode always on it's not slow paced questing.
And still we are told that grinding is good, slow leveling is good, that we must start loving it..
All we want on the PVP server is to gear up our characters and login for 1-3 hours a day for some PVP activity and sometimes PVE raids.
Not grinding, not questing, not leveling

[Beckett]

The leveling journey is part of what makes the server feel like WoW

He said it! He said the thing!

People just want to catch up to where they were when TWOW went down, dude. And the server's code and economy is fine-tuned around where it was then, which is partially why it's flatlined. The battleground BG grinders are partial to that, of course, but they are a symptom of the greater disease of OWOW (and really late-stage TWOW) pandering to gerkneetards and nerfing rested/dungeon XP rates, the latter especially baffling and a big reason why people started spamming BGs instead. People aren't leveling alts, they don't even seem to be leveling professions, everything is dirt cheap. TWOW custom content is nothing special either, just more kill/fetch/walk.

We all know where it ends for gerkneetards anyway... Frozen and trapped at the bottom of the Auction House, with only the RMT ban list to sing the tale of their doom.

[Doaksie]

The leveling journey is part of what makes the server feel like WoW

He said it! He said the thing!

People just want to catch up to where they were when TWOW went down, dude. And the server's code and economy is fine-tuned around where it was then, which is partially why it's flatlined. The battleground BG grinders are partial to that, of course, but they are a symptom of the greater disease of OWOW (and really late-stage TWOW) pandering to gerkneetards and nerfing rested/dungeon XP rates, the latter especially baffling and a big reason why people started spamming BGs instead. People aren't leveling alts, they don't even seem to be leveling professions, everything is dirt cheap. TWOW custom content is nothing special either, just more kill/fetch/walk.

We all know where it ends for gerkneetards anyway... Frozen and trapped at the bottom of the Auction House, with only the RMT ban list to sing the tale of their doom.

I was on Tel'abim and I'm not advocating for a slow grind pve-style. I'm saying that the "leveling journey" on a pvp server shouldn't look the same as it does on the pve realm. I want xp from pvp, not pve.

[Chuppus]

This feels really sad - I've taken a break while blizzard situation seemed unstable.
Came back to play with guildies, which already have 2 chars exped and started raiding.

Started with challenges on HC, got discouraged and crossed over to pve.
Couldn't activate War Mode since this option was already removed...

Now I can't exp on BG, can't remove challenges, can't add War Mode.
Stuck to plowing through the old content alone for N'th time.

Unfortunately it seems I'm too late to the party to enjoy playing on this server.

[Doaksie]

You have 10/1 ratio on the forums and 50/1 ratio on the community discord — 150/0 in SoM discord and 300/0 on Care Bears discord for the dungeon mob tagging/xp rates/BG xp nerf etc but you're somehow only positively answering to the 3 comments that want the things you forced down our throats claiming it's what is best for us.

aren't u exaggerating those numbers a little bit?

the same 10-20 ppl that are voicing their opinion louder than anyone else in Octo discord are the same here

150/0 in SoM discord?
there is not a single soul that isn't against x1?

300/0 on Carebears discord?
really???

btw, Carebears, the leveling guild that behaves as if clearing MC or even Naxx in 2026 is an achievement
and the only pvp they did on T'A, was dying 40v20 outside MC by WY
is a good sample of what pvpers want on a pvp realm?

Fyi, although im just voicing my personal opinion here
there are other guilds that considered the BG xp nerf as normal, cause it was ridiculous


At the end of the day, i'd like to repeat that Octo is a FREE 2 PLAY private server with OPTIONAL donations
the fact that Head Dev Kestrel is listening to our opinions, doesnt mean that he has to cater to the majority (if that's indeed the case)!
this is not a democracy after all...

Maybe Y'Shaarj isn't the continuation of Tel'Abim
Maybe, just maybe, a pvp realm with insta 60lvl focused around pvp progression is better suited for you (plural)

If anyone thinks it's a small minority who are upset with these changes and it's being exaggerated, let's put it to a vote and see what happens.