Rename pvp to yshaarj and pve to n'zoth. Seeing atm this split seems to not do anything

[Knifewrench]

yes, as this would give a reason for the forum admin to mute/ban accounts that come here to do nothing but trolling and derailing of pvp topics. Namely one spiteful person who is aptly named Defiant.

You're welcome to disagree with me but I'm not derailing anything, I'm just sharing my perspective. For example the one screenshot you posted to prove that Horde "dominate" Alliance actually had Alliance with 37 total kills while Horde only had 26. Alliance also only attempted to pick up the Flag a total of one time. I'm not being spiteful, I'm just parsing data. I'd actually like to have a conversation about that but all of your responses have been attempts to insult me-- and now you apparently want me banned altogether. I'm sorry that I've hurt your feelings.

And again I had nothing to do with you being banned from my guilds Discord, when one of my officers saw you call me a hateful racial slur within minutes of joining our server he took matters into his own hands. You're more than welcome to file a ban appeal though, just hit me up via DM with a heartfelt apology and all will be forgiven.

As tittle explains.

The two servers while separate are very much connected. Any major class balance and general PVP changes being suggested here would ultimately impact the PVE server and our Battlegrounds. Since I engage in PVP that would impact me, and I feel that I deserve to voice my opinion. The same is true in reverse, as the PVP server also has access to PVE content, if you have input on PVE suggestions being made in the PVE subforum I would encourage you to voice your opinion about them.

Yes or maybe we should start spamming PvE forum demanding 0.5 xp for them as they did on our topics

And sure why not I'll bite. We weren't demanding that you have 0.5 xp rates. We were asking you to stop spamming the forums demanding 2.0 xp rates. There is a distinction. The reality is that you basically already have 2.0 xp rates considering how easy it is to maintain Rested XP at all times. That's what, 1.75 xp rates? But you wanted 2.0 xp rates, which with the rested XP would essentially be what, 3.5 xp rates? Your topics were posted everywhere, in every forum, and you even hijacked multiple Announcement threads. Which is why you faced pushback, because people were tired of the spam.

And your response to all of that is to encourage more spam? Bold strategy cotton.

I 100% stand by and agree with Defiant.

It is alarming how pushing and insisting (some) Y'S players are. They blatantly disregard the community's opinions and concerns, and act like Y'S is a completely separate and different private server altogether. They want to *actually* segregate and void the voices of the larger community. They dismiss anyone that disagrees with them.

I once again ask you to read kestrels post and realise this forum is for pvp server not general pvp discussions.

[Yotca]

I 100% stand by and agree with Defiant.

It is alarming how pushing and insisting (some) Y'S players are. They blatantly disregard the community's opinions and concerns, and act like Y'S is a completely separate and different private server altogether. They want to *actually* segregate and void the voices of the larger community. They dismiss anyone that disagrees with them.

This isn't a PvP forum. It's the Y'Shaarj forum. Kestrel's announcement was made clear. You and Defiant kept coming on our topics — keep coming even when the forums were specifically split. Defiant called for segregation; he got it. You've segregated us and you're the only losers that ever even voiced anything close to that. I can quote you both on it. Have some shame.

Oh and Defiant... you're a grand total of 5 people from a 40k population server to have "pushed back" without ever addressing a single point or argument with anything other than "it's not Vanilla" — remain silent when unable to produce a single counterpoint when confronted about the differences between PvP and PvE server rules. You probably to this day still don't know the differences.

You two if anything have shown to be a dismissive and limited fraction of voices of the PvE server despite it being multiples larger. That alone should make you realize that the PvP server has a community stronger than the PvE server ever will.

Do not allow yourself to comment here over and over again. This isn't the Octowow PvP forum.

Keep your asinine PvE opinions to your part of the forums.

[Dzielkus]

This isn't a PvP forum. It's the Y'Shaarj forum. Kestrel's announcement was made clear.

PvP server has a community stronger than the PvE server ever will.

Do not allow yourself to comment here over and over again. This isn't the Octowow PvP forum.

Keep your asinine PvE opinions to your part of the forums.

Yet this forum section isn't named after realm, but "PvP". If it should be only for realm specific then it shouls get named that.
You guys got serious issues, needs further diagnosis.
One is clear, you few playing on Y'Shaarj are just mental about being true and only "pvpers".
Go out, touch some grass.

You can't allow or not allowed to post ppl on this or that forum section. Do you realize that all who has account have acces to all 3 realms and can actually play on all 3?

[Berdal]

@Yotca @Knifewrench

Back off dimwits. Read my post again. All realms are strongly coupled. Neither we nor the devs want vastly differences on the different realms. That would hurt the server, the development, and the maintenance. Besides, PvP is not exclusive to one realm. There's just one different ruleset. Don't try to hijack the conversation.

And for the record, I play on Y'S.

[Knifewrench]

@Yotca @Knifewrench

Back off dimwits. Read my post again. All realms are strongly coupled. Neither we nor the devs want vastly differences on the different realms. That would hurt the server, the development, and the maintenance. Besides, PvP is not exclusive to one realm. There's just one different ruleset. Don't try to coup the conversation.

And for the record, I play on Y'S.

I once again askyou to read kestrels post https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489
Also xfaction bg and pvp balance is giga different balance wise then not having xfaction.

[Berdal]

I once again askyou to read kestrels post https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489
Also xfaction bg and pvp balance is giga different balance wise then not having xfaction.

And for the record, I play on Y'S.

[Berdal]

EDIT: Didn't mean to repost.

[Yotca]

Yet this forum section isn't named after realm, but "PvP". If it should be only for realm specific then it shouls get named that.
You guys got serious issues, needs further diagnosis.
One is clear, you few playing on Y'Shaarj are just mental about being true and only "pvpers".
Go out, touch some grass.

You can't allow or not allowed to post ppl on this or that forum section. Do you realize that all who has account have acces to all 3 realms and can actually play on all 3?

Can you read the part about REALMS?

At this point I no longer doubt your inability to read. We're even asking for the sections to be named in consequence to avoid ignorant people like yourself keep pushing back from an N'Zoth lens. How many times do you need to make a fool of yourself?

Keep any PvE server related pushback to the PvE section of the forums.

[Yotca]

@Yotca @Knifewrench

Back off dimwits. Read my post again. All realms are strongly coupled. Neither we nor the devs want vastly differences on the different realms. That would hurt the server, the development, and the maintenance. Besides, PvP is not exclusive to one realm. There's just one different ruleset. Don't try to highjack the conversation.

And for the record, I play on Y'S.

The differences already exist via rule sets and different mechanics — the HC realm is getting HC exclusive changes and the PvP realm is getting PvP exlcusive changes.

Once again this isn't the Octowow PvE server related PvP suggestions ; it's the PvP REALM related suggestions.

[Yotca]

TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR DO YOU ALLOW YOURSELVES TO MAKE N'ZOTH RELATED PUSHBACK ON THINGS PERTAINING TO C'THUN?

NO ! THEN WHY DO YOU ALLOW YOURSELVES TO MAKE N'ZOTH RELATED PUSHBACK ON THINGS PERTAINING TO Y'SHAARJ?!

Keep your PvE server pushback on PvP limited to the suggestions where it's written PvE.

This is the Y'Shaarj section of the forums.