Make this Almost-PVP-Server a Here-To-Stay-PVP-Server

[Ahzari]

1. remove warmode from pve servers. its a pve server.

2. remove the choice to portal to a pvp server from HC servers. better remove the ability to portal to a pve server at all. whats the point of HC?

3. scale up everyones stats of a lower lvl in a bg bracket to a lvl 19;29;39 etc and scale down stats of better geared lvl 19;29;39 etc. (twinks) im thinking of what albion does to item lvl balance in crystal arenas. in general increase lvl requirements for enchants and jewelcrafting. in order to discourage twink-griefters and promote somewhat of a fair play for new players and people who just want some decent lvl of competition and real FUN and not just to be forced into bgs to get the mount discount.

4. revert the change that blind is not a poison anymore. It will help Alliance have a counterplay with stoneform.

5. change human racial to: removes stuns and silence effects;simmilar as WoF. Give those blood elfes ehem i mean high elves a silence like in tbc.

6. increase human racial and ud racial to 4 minutes; 1 min more than the trinket - or give it a shared cd with trinket of 20-30seconds if you use on or the other.

7. increase the orc racial to reduce stunduration by 25% instead of 15%. that will make a full kidney or HoJ 4 seconds.

8. on turtle wow we had a guy named jamey who was responsible for PVP balance and know shit about pvp. he made the new pvp sets... give back hit rating to pvp sets so you can actually play the game and not farm diremaul or strat for supbar hit items which will fuck up your setbonus anyways if you use arathi pvp set...

9. remove reselience + dampening also itemize naxx gear and kara gear as it is at T1 and T2 and fix shamans and paladins - good shamans and paladins should be able to tank but not tank heal and hit you in the face in pvp at the same time.

10. remove arena and replace it with rated bgs for T2 PVP gear and weapons. Maybe keep Arena but make it give only trinkets, rings and necklaces.

11. lower the rep requirements in WSG for weapons so people can get some decent weapons through pvp also i really loved back in the days to have 2 hour epic WSG games but i think make a timer ~ 25 minutes or 30.

12. force the pvp director to introduce him self properly and give his outlook and thoughts. no one got time till jannuary.

thank you very much for probably the best classic + content in terms of lore, dungeons, raids, class changes, profession changes, challanges, but please fix the pvp. (and make summoning stones work where you need 3 people to elliminate the warlock mafia and promote more group play.)

kayn

Bonus : make the island of telabim a pvp focused zone with objectives like towers and anyone who dies on the island has a chance to drop a golden banana.

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[Ahzari]

I have no problem with low level being as fun as higher level, the issue is these changes that are recommended by people who don't pvp reach the devs who don't pvp at all, they put in the change, nobody likes it because of course, other factors weren't considered and therefore its unproductive time waste. This is why pvp crowd needs to be more vocal. There are some ways you can deincentivize killing low lvls but IMO this should be so low on priority list because its barely an issue ingame. There is also just the fact that being low level is basically worse position than higher level and thats just how it is, thats how game was made. I agree with some of your suggestions. However , your suggestion about making all low levels in bg scale to 29, 39 etc. starts of good, its good intention but you didn't take into account that those low leveled don't have same abilities as those that are high leveled in that bg, they also don't have same gear because level requirements for gear and I honestly don't think that whole suggestion is an issue. What they should focus on imo is fixing bugs, class balance, pvp gear, events etc. atleast pvp wise.

all i agree and i want to elaborate on the low lvl ganking others in world pvp this is another issue. i have rerolled alliance now i was in durotar and barrens as lvl 10 rogue and ganked people in my lvl range so im lvl 10 i ganked lvl 6 and lvl 14 i swim from theramore island to durotar to have pvp and also i do this cuz i will not have enough honorable kills by lvl 40 yes i also want to have minus 10 g on my mount. but i dont complain about this. the problem is people dont q up bgs cuz some weird hunter is in full dragonmaw gear in lvl 29 bg and people just dont want to be oneshot and /loled at. anyways thats my two cents. but what you said is righght so far what ive seen the devs here fixes bugs turtle never FIXED ever. i hope they get the client right and do some thoughtfull changes to the pvp GEARING. its more about as a pvp player you cant properly gear upp you have to more pve than pvp. and in my opinion i dont care. i think it should be both way you should get good gear in pve and pvp ESPECIALLY in lower lvls. if you look at one of my suggestions. in warsong you get really good weapons but only at honored and excalted. you will never reach this even on a server with 2k people playing and if you do the AB gear is much better.

Yes bg reputation is very slow and with this population and queues its gonna be a while till you reach exalted. There are wsg rep items for low levels but you can never get that much rep unless you like twink for maybe half a year or more. I play bgs every chance I get, unfortunately due to queue time I can't sit there and just wait so for wsg I think I am still honored I think, for Arathi Basin I am friendly. Its gonna take a while till I farm rep for any of these and by the time I do I will probably get some better PVE gear.

thats what happens. right? imagine you lvl up and go to the pvp vendor. what you see is some lazy fuck removed hitrating from pvp gear and replaced it with 10 shadowresistance? amazing... also there is people-i mean you cant probably do much about this- but they have another instance of wow open and just sit there on another account with a lvl 29 twink and wait for bg. seriously. his is so low -_- then you have people who have characters on horde and alliance and they spy on you lol? and lets not talk about the nerby addon which i dont use out of principle. anyways thanks for your imput. some changes have to be made on the pvp server to promote actuall pvp and the best way is to have proper gearing options in place.

[Doaksie]

It's increasingly obvious that blanket changes aren't the answer to making both servers successful and what works for the pve realm and the pvp realm aren't always the same.

With that said, increased xp rates and/or bg xp rates would also be fantastic

[Ahzari]

It's increasingly obvious that blanket changes aren't the answer to making both servers successful and what works for the pve realm and the pvp realm aren't always the same.

With that said, increased xp rates and/or bg xp rates would also be fantastic

do you really think like a x2 xp rate can fix things. its a pvp server so yes the best is to be a lvl 60 but it goes against the philosophy of classic wow which is social. and even when you get faster to lvl 60 there is no proper gear progression through pvp you still have to pve more. i think its nice but on the other hand it makes people lvl up fast and not give a f about lower lvl content. thats okay. but one thing with 2x is that you dont even get enough gold to lvl up your skills. i think xp rates are okay for bgs its just people dont q up for them. i mean im slow and steady right now with warmode and rested xp in inns is good. if i just go warmode with rested xp i basically would have 2x right now.

[Ahzari]

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