Ninja Looting is ALLOWED! (with proof) (confirmed by GM)

[Knifewrench]

I'm pretty sure this has already been addressed though, unless set rules are determined beforehand like an SR system it's all technically fair game.

This is exactly the problem is it not? This means that every time you want to play a dungeon, you need to explicitly tell everyone that PROT PALADINS queing as DPS should not NEED on a mail int+spell power over the holy pala (Just as an example on the context of this post. This applies to almost anything, like a warrior needing a bow over a hunter, tanks needing agility gear "because of armor", etc.) and they also have to agree to it everytime for it to work, and keep the screenshots saved everytime because otherwise gms don't care.

A healer shouldnt need on dps items, stop being a 0 iq shitter.

[Nseternal]

But to answer your question: I wouldn't care. If the stats are good for him then why not roll need on it? Sucks for the Hunter, but then again Hunters also can roll for melee weapons so it evens out, he can just roll need on a Dagger the Rogue might need.

two wrongs don't make a right

[Burnett]

So hit Need every time, unless someone says "don't ninja loot" and has a screenshot to back it up, because you are allowed!

Ok so first of all, those aren't healer pants. It's spell damage. There are greens with nearly double the healing power at that level range for example. Second of all, an upgrade is an upgrade. Paladin Tanks 100% utilize spell damage.

This genuinely sounds like you don't understand the game, and you tried to report someone for rolling need on an upgrade.

I feel that I've seen a few examples like this lately, and frankly you people need to understand what "ninja looting" is, and you don't. If something is an upgrade for someone, that's a hell of a lot different than this shit that you tried to spew here; "So hit Need every time".

Right, like you're so unaware of the game that you're actually just promoting people roll need on *everything* because someone rolled need on an upgrade.

Yeah people like *you* are why I tend to only group with my guild or friends.

If you need to make lots of assumptions as to why such a spell/caster oriented item COULD be a viable roll for a PROT paladin who is running as DPS rolling for PROT when he is not currently in-role as PROT... lemme tell ya... you're playing devil's advocate!

You legitimately just don't understand that Prot paladins use spell power. It's a key stat for them. You are not playing Vanilla. Quit it with the Vanilla assumptions.

Why are you ignoring literally everything else just to focus on the pants? The point of the post was to show proof that ninja looting is allowed, which the chat with the GM clearly shows to be true. You're also completely ignoring the fact that the "prot pala" queued as DPS. He was NOT TANKING the dungeon. So much text, while being passive-aggressive, just to show that you're unable to read and understand the information provided in the screenshots.

[Archivist]

I'm starting to think that this server has mostly attracted the dregs from TWoW, with how antsy people are getting over loot drops and "Who needs it more"...

But to answer your question: I wouldn't care. If the stats are good for him then why not roll need on it? Sucks for the Hunter, but then again Hunters also can roll for melee weapons so it evens out, he can just roll need on a Dagger the Rogue might need.

two wrongs don't make a right

It's not a wrong though, is it?

Hunters can melee and use Agility. Rogues are melee and Agility. Both use ranged weapons to greater or lesser extent.

It's all fair game between them.

[Burnett]

I'm pretty sure this has already been addressed though, unless set rules are determined beforehand like an SR system it's all technically fair game.

This is exactly the problem is it not? This means that every time you want to play a dungeon, you need to explicitly tell everyone that PROT PALADINS queing as DPS should not NEED on a mail int+spell power over the holy pala (Just as an example on the context of this post. This applies to almost anything, like a warrior needing a bow over a hunter, tanks needing agility gear "because of armor", etc.) and they also have to agree to it everytime for it to work, and keep the screenshots saved everytime because otherwise gms don't care.

A healer shouldnt need on dps items, stop being a 0 iq shitter.

Talking about low IQ, yet for multiple replies, you're unable to understand that nobody cares about the pants. The whole point is that ninja looting is allowed on the server, as proven by the chat with the GM in the screenshots.

[Knifewrench]

So hit Need every time, unless someone says "don't ninja loot" and has a screenshot to back it up, because you are allowed!

Ok so first of all, those aren't healer pants. It's spell damage. There are greens with nearly double the healing power at that level range for example. Second of all, an upgrade is an upgrade. Paladin Tanks 100% utilize spell damage.

This genuinely sounds like you don't understand the game, and you tried to report someone for rolling need on an upgrade.

I feel that I've seen a few examples like this lately, and frankly you people need to understand what "ninja looting" is, and you don't. If something is an upgrade for someone, that's a hell of a lot different than this shit that you tried to spew here; "So hit Need every time".

Right, like you're so unaware of the game that you're actually just promoting people roll need on *everything* because someone rolled need on an upgrade.

Yeah people like *you* are why I tend to only group with my guild or friends.

If you need to make lots of assumptions as to why such a spell/caster oriented item COULD be a viable roll for a PROT paladin who is running as DPS rolling for PROT when he is not currently in-role as PROT... lemme tell ya... you're playing devil's advocate!

You legitimately just don't understand that Prot paladins use spell power. It's a key stat for them. You are not playing Vanilla. Quit it with the Vanilla assumptions.

Why are you ignoring literally everything else just to focus on the pants? The point of the post was to show proof that ninja looting is allowed, which the chat with the GM clearly shows to be true. You're also completely ignoring the fact that the "prot pala" queued as DPS. He was NOT TANKING the dungeon. So much text, while being passive-aggressive, just to show that you're unable to read and understand the information provided in the screenshots.

For a post to be about ninja looting, someone has to ninja loot, tbh ur whole shitguild should be server blacklisted because u guys cant be trusted.

[Archivist]

This is exactly the problem is it not? This means that every time you want to play a dungeon, you need to explicitly tell everyone that PROT PALADINS queing as DPS should not NEED on a mail int+spell power over the holy pala (Just as an example on the context of this post. This applies to almost anything, like a warrior needing a bow over a hunter, tanks needing agility gear "because of armor", etc.) and they also have to agree to it everytime for it to work, and keep the screenshots saved everytime because otherwise gms don't care.

A healer shouldnt need on dps items, stop being a 0 iq shitter.

Talking about low IQ, yet for multiple replies, you're unable to understand that nobody cares about the pants. The whole point is that ninja looting is allowed on the server, as proven by the chat with the GM in the screenshots.

If you understood or even cared about what people are saying, you'd understand the reason they're talking about the "irrelevant Pants" is because they're trying to explain to you WHY someone would roll on them, and why it's NOT ninja-looting. At least in this scenario.

Nobody gives a shit about it. People recognize it as a crap thing to do but they're not gonna ape out over it.

[Nseternal]

I'm starting to think that this server has mostly attracted the dregs from TWoW, with how antsy people are getting over loot drops and "Who needs it more"...

But to answer your question: I wouldn't care. If the stats are good for him then why not roll need on it? Sucks for the Hunter, but then again Hunters also can roll for melee weapons so it evens out, he can just roll need on a Dagger the Rogue might need.

two wrongs don't make a right

It's not a wrong though, is it?

Hunters can melee and use Agility. Rogues are melee and Agility. Both use ranged weapons to greater or lesser extent.

It's all fair game between them.

it's not fair game to roll on mismatched gear not intended for your class.

a rogue should not be needing on an upgrade meant for a hunter, a hunter should not be rolling on daggers meant for a rogue. in absence of the intended class sure roll whatever, but it take a special kind of stupid to assume "hurr i can equip it so i will need it". that's how you ruin the community and create a wild west.

[Defiant]

Why are you ignoring literally everything else just to focus on the pants? The point of the post was to show proof that ninja looting is allowed, which the chat with the GM clearly shows to be true. You're also completely ignoring the fact that the "prot pala" queued as DPS. He was NOT TANKING the dungeon. So much text, while being passive-aggressive, just to show that you're unable to read and understand the information provided in the screenshots.

Yes you can do DPS as Prot. With spellpower gear. It's arguably better DPS and especially better for leveling in general as a Paladin than Ret is.

Have you never played Turtle / Octo? Well then stop having opinions about stuff like this.

And all of that is ignoring that again, they are not healer pants. I'm not being passive aggressive mate, you guys need to learn the game before having opinions about it. Until then you will continue to get mad about completely ordinary things. Best of luck with that.

For a post to be about ninja looting, someone has to ninja loot,

Look, you guys are being so ridiculous that even Knifewrench is making sense.

[Burnett]

For a post to be about ninja looting, someone has to ninja loot, tbh ur whole shitguild should be server blacklisted because u guys cant be trusted.

The post literally has a screenshot of a GM saying that ninja looting is allowed, you cannot be this dumb.