Y'shaarj: no point to queue BGs as a new fresh 60

[Therealvda]

how is letting that horde feast on pve realm players any better?

way to kill bg's..

if alliance already not queueing on pvp realm because horde are to strong the last thing you do is opening up for that horde to feast on pve realm players.

If out of 3500 players we can't get a WSG/AB started then the server is dead and it's time to bury it.

[Knifewrench]

how is letting that horde feast on pve realm players any better?

way to kill bg's..

if alliance already not queueing on pvp realm because horde are to strong the last thing you do is opening up for that horde to feast on pve realm players.

alliance qeue's most of the day there is a bg up. and in that ally bg 1/3 or 1/4 is ex horde players that rolled ally because there is always shorter qeue's on ally side, this been a thing in ta/classic basicly everywhere. because horde is percieved as having pvp advantage so most dumb idiots roll horde and go hurdur look ill have easyer games. meanwhile ally that qeue's doing godswork in keeping the bgs going. everyone from TA knew this would happen and majority of horde chose to still roll on the side with qeue's. this is just a skill issue at this point.
and then u got peeps like tifa in here claiming shit but that man is known to get recked by people in blue's while wearing full t3. he doesnt even know how to pvp, he shouldnt talk in these posts.
tdlr : dont complain about qeue's if u want to play on faction with op shockshams.
like just have pvp dev follow around micayah for a few bgs and then claim its a balanced spec....

[Niyu]

this guy don't seem to understand that for BG's to pop both sides need to have people in the queue and whichever side have less people will have shorter queue.

a problem that only increase if server population rise and faction imbalance remain.

im curious about the real reason so many horde rolled alliance this time around. it's definitely not for shorter queue or the IQ levels are far worse than i ever imagined.

given how horde side is heavily populated on the pvp realm that shed a light on the answer, but i don't think that's the full answer.

and considering how many on the pvp realm deem the realm dead, maybe just merge into the pve. however there was a word of players being there because there's no cross faction BS. so beyond about time to end that bullshit on the pve realm to.

hearing there is no cross realm bg there made it very tempting to roll on the pvp realm, but meeh. it's a pve game first of all.

the end of cross faction BG when?

do you have any idea of how many levels of wrong it is to pop into WSG having to fight for the horde as a night elf? ETC.

it is obvious that turtle devs and the playerbase who supported this have absolutely no idea how to develop the game.

even blizzard ain't that R.

[Nseternal]

per Octo's own census on Y'shaart

50/50 total split between 10-60

total 60s
alliance: 205
horde: 230

this is CLEAR evidence that the imbalances are pvp/faction related and not due to horde having an overwhelming amount of 60s. added to the problem is custom content from turtle where on phase 1 we have gear from mid-game (exalted reputation, K10). turtle wow pvp was historically always highly unbalanced cuz the project is pve-oriented.

@Kestrel, you know what needs to be done. just merge Y'shaart into the pve server. pvp is a FAILED escapade here and will NEVER be balanced due to the nature of turtle and of the vanilla pvp racials.

server first AV last night was an absolute PUBSTOMP by horde who managed to kill both korrak and vandar in an hour. every BG only serves to increase the already wide gear disparity. so i've stopped playing here until a merger.

(and yes shaman is SO BUSTED OP here they carry entire BGs just plowing through alliance with their extreme burst dmg and self-sustain.)

[Therealvda]

this guy don't seem to understand that for BG's to pop both sides need to have people in the queue and whichever side have less people will have shorter queue.

a problem that only increase if server population rise and faction imbalance remain.

im curious about the real reason so many horde rolled alliance this time around. it's definitely not for shorter queue or the IQ levels are far worse than i ever imagined.

given how horde side is heavily populated on the pvp realm that shed a light on the answer, but i don't think that's the full answer.

and considering how many on the pvp realm deem the realm dead, maybe just merge into the pve. however there was a word of players being there because there's no cross faction BS. so beyond about time to end that bullshit on the pve realm to.

hearing there is no cross realm bg there made it very tempting to roll on the pvp realm, but meeh. it's a pve game first of all.

the end of cross faction BG when?

do you have any idea of how many levels of wrong it is to pop into WSG having to fight for the horde as a night elf? ETC.

it is obvious that turtle devs and the playerbase who supported this have absolutely no idea how to develop the game.

even blizzard ain't that R.

Cross faction BGs are better than no BGs/3 hour queues.

The PvE realm has more Alliance, the PVP realm has more Horde.

If Cross Realm BGs still have 3 hour queue issues, then we can do cross-faction, cross-realm BGs and the problem should be fixed.

[Therealvda]

server first AV last night was an absolute PUBSTOMP by horde who managed to kill both korrak and vandar in an hour. every BG only serves to increase the already wide gear disparity. so i've stopped playing here until a merger.

This... isn't true?

The AV lasted almost 2 hours, with the Alliance defending in their own base once they started losing the map, which is the way that BG is meant to be played instead of both sides ignoring each other and rushing to PvE the NPCs for maximum honor/hour.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... y=lossless

(and yes shaman is SO BUSTED OP here they carry entire BGs just plowing through alliance with their extreme burst dmg and self-sustain.)

Paladin is a million times worse, overtuned, overloaded kit and never goes OOM.

[Nseternal]

server first AV last night was an absolute PUBSTOMP by horde who managed to kill both korrak and vandar in an hour. every BG only serves to increase the already wide gear disparity. so i've stopped playing here until a merger.

This... isn't true?

The AV lasted almost 2 hours, with the Alliance defending in their own base once they started losing the map, which is the way that BG is meant to be played instead of both sides ignoring each other and rushing to PvE the NPCs for maximum honor/hour.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... y=lossless

(and yes shaman is SO BUSTED OP here they carry entire BGs just plowing through alliance with their extreme burst dmg and self-sustain.)

Paladin is a million times worse, overtuned, overloaded kit and never goes OOM.

it was 1 hour in real effort, then 1 hour in alliance turtle when they should have moved out of the way and ended it cuz there is no coming back from a total CURBSTOMP.

your screenshot even has a shaman as #1

[Niyu]

Cross faction BGs are better than no BGs/3 hour queues.

It is not.

It's also already made many leave the server and keeping people out from BG. And making queue system broken from people leaving instantly and "always" being put on wrong faction as a chain reaction.

It's completely against how the game should work.

BG is a tiny part of the game, if your queue is to long go do something else.

[Darktifa]

it was 1 hour in real effort, then 1 hour in alliance turtle when they should have moved out of the way and ended it cuz there is no coming back from a total CURBSTOMP.

your screenshot even has a shaman as #1

This is the final score
guess which class is even worse than Shamans/Paladins etc

[Holydruid]

Shamans is so OP.. even the only reason we win BG.. as Shaman carry us so hard... omg.. what shall we do without shamans... to bad ya'll still lose and get owned even without shamans. Dont forget the "OP" feral druids.. oh wait we had 1, me.. in pve tank spec. Yet every single Ally BG is like this.... 50% or more are pallies. Cut the crap.