Rename pvp to yshaarj and pve to n'zoth. Seeing atm this split seems to not do anything

[Knifewrench]

I once again askyou to read kestrels post https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489
Also xfaction bg and pvp balance is giga different balance wise then not having xfaction.

And for the record, I play on Y'S.

U said "PvP is not exclusive to one realm. There's just one different ruleset. Don't try to highjack the conversation." Explai how asking to keep yshaarj forum yshjaar related is hijacking a conversation?

[Knifewrench]

I once again askyou to read kestrels post https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489
Also xfaction bg and pvp balance is giga different balance wise then not having xfaction.

And for the record, I play on Y'S.

For the record u play HC server and not pvp why are u dishonest about this?

[Berdal]

For the record u play HC server and not pvp why are u dishonest about this?

po po poooolice

I have a plethora of characters distributed on all realms. Unfortunately I have very limited time to play due to life stage.

But I really don't have to defend myself to you. And more importantly you continue spamming this thread with irrelevant, non-productive noise.

[Yotca]

You being ignorant of the conditions on the PvP server should have at least made you hesitant to chime in.
Hopefully the small detour on the PvP discord taught you otherwise.

None of us chimed in on the PvE server suggestions — other than our 0.25xp troll — not once.

I do however admire your courage to speak in the absence of knowledge.

[Nseternal]

Bro realy analyzing a scoreboard pretending he knows what went on typical skillless pve parsing opinoon detected and rejected. And no pve discussion for pvp server goes on pvp forums. 3th time im asking you to read this post. https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489 and then stop trolling us on our servers forum

I don't know precisely what went down, for sure, and killing blows aren't the best metric to judge PVP with. However, when one team has 50% more killing blows that is significant. Even in a tough strugglefest of a WSG you should be able to at least pick up the enemy flag more than once, especially if you have a significant kill lead.

Either way, the phrasing used was that Horde are "Dominating" and I'm sorry but if your team has a 50% lead on kills you're not being dominated.

Screenshots of BGs are a horrible metric anyways, so if you criticize me for talking about killing blows, taking random out of context screenshots as gospel has to be just as bad. That's why I recommended he upload some footage so people can see what exactly is going on and make suggestions for how Alliance can improve.

Oh by the way, did you ever end up getting unbanned from the Octowow Discord? Like sure I recommended segregating you guys but I wouldn't want you outright banned. Everyone deserves a voice, ya know?

Bro, number one that discord is not an official discord. And number two it's ran by at least one woman with a rat army of anime profile troons. So it's not hard to get banned from there for even the slightest reason. I myself got banned from there for using the word rape in an innocuous fashion.

And those combat log screenshots I posted of myself fighting shamans was not indicative of my own ability in PvP, only to show the extreme form of damage that shamans can deal out in mere seconds. But of course someone like you who's coming here only to be disingenuous you would nitpick something as stupid as my k:d ratio in a BG.

[Knifewrench]

Bro realy analyzing a scoreboard pretending he knows what went on typical skillless pve parsing opinoon detected and rejected. And no pve discussion for pvp server goes on pvp forums. 3th time im asking you to read this post. https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489 and then stop trolling us on our servers forum

I don't know precisely what went down, for sure, and killing blows aren't the best metric to judge PVP with. However, when one team has 50% more killing blows that is significant. Even in a tough strugglefest of a WSG you should be able to at least pick up the enemy flag more than once, especially if you have a significant kill lead.

Either way, the phrasing used was that Horde are "Dominating" and I'm sorry but if your team has a 50% lead on kills you're not being dominated.

Screenshots of BGs are a horrible metric anyways, so if you criticize me for talking about killing blows, taking random out of context screenshots as gospel has to be just as bad. That's why I recommended he upload some footage so people can see what exactly is going on and make suggestions for how Alliance can improve.

Oh by the way, did you ever end up getting unbanned from the Octowow Discord? Like sure I recommended segregating you guys but I wouldn't want you outright banned. Everyone deserves a voice, ya know?

Bro, number one that discord is not an official discord. And number two it's ran by at least one woman with a rat army of anime profile troons. So it's not hard to get banned from there for even the slightest reason. I myself got banned from there for using the word rape in an innocuous fashion.

And those combat log screenshots I posted of myself fighting shamans was not indicative of my own ability in PvP, only to show the extreme form of damage that shamans can deal out in mere seconds. But of course someone like you who's coming here only to be disingenuous you would nitpick something as stupid as my k:d ratio in a BG.

Its funny tho defiant got banned in that disc or left it, while owner had to appolagize for their mods making false claims about me after checking all chatlogs

[Dzielkus]

THEN WHY DO YOU ALLOW YOURSELVES TO MAKE N'ZOTH RELATED PUSHBACK ON THINGS PERTAINING TO Y'SHAARJ?![/B]

Keep your PvE server pushback on PvP limited to the suggestions where it's written PvE.

This is the Y'Shaarj section of the forums.

I still see "PvP" subforum. Not Y'Shaarj.
Even though , how you will stop people from posting on realm specific subforum?

I understand you do not allow to yourself information that all 3 realms on OctoWoW have shared spells/content/mechanics/etc.
Denial is still not argument.

Truly, this "pvp" 200 ppl community from Y'Sha is toxic as Shadra avatar. I don't even want to level my toon there. You all should stay caged.

[Yotca]

I still see "PvP" subforum. Not Y'Shaarj.
Even though , how you will stop people from posting on realm specific subforum?

I understand you do not allow to yourself information that all 3 realms on OctoWoW have shared spells/content/mechanics/etc.
Denial is still not argument.

Truly, this "pvp" 200 ppl community from Y'Sha is toxic as Shadra avatar. I don't even want to level my toon there. You all should stay caged.

Now you also know better than the lead dev?

[Spicyahi]

THEN WHY DO YOU ALLOW YOURSELVES TO MAKE N'ZOTH RELATED PUSHBACK ON THINGS PERTAINING TO Y'SHAARJ?![/B]

Keep your PvE server pushback on PvP limited to the suggestions where it's written PvE.

This is the Y'Shaarj section of the forums.

I still see "PvP" subforum. Not Y'Shaarj.

Yea that's why the change was requested.

[Ahzari]

yes, as this would give a reason for the forum admin to mute/ban accounts that come here to do nothing but trolling and derailing of pvp topics. Namely one spiteful person who is aptly named Defiant.

You're welcome to disagree with me but I'm not derailing anything, I'm just sharing my perspective. For example the one screenshot you posted to prove that Horde "dominate" Alliance actually had Alliance with 37 total kills while Horde only had 26. Alliance also only attempted to pick up the Flag a total of one time. I'm not being spiteful, I'm just parsing data. I'd actually like to have a conversation about that but all of your responses have been attempts to insult me-- and now you apparently want me banned altogether. I'm sorry that I've hurt your feelings.

And again I had nothing to do with you being banned from my guilds Discord, when one of my officers saw you call me a hateful racial slur within minutes of joining our server he took matters into his own hands. You're more than welcome to file a ban appeal though, just hit me up via DM with a heartfelt apology and all will be forgiven.

As tittle explains.

The two servers while separate are very much connected. Any major class balance and general PVP changes being suggested here would ultimately impact the PVE server and our Battlegrounds. Since I engage in PVP that would impact me, and I feel that I deserve to voice my opinion. The same is true in reverse, as the PVP server also has access to PVE content, if you have input on PVE suggestions being made in the PVE subforum I would encourage you to voice your opinion about them.

Yes or maybe we should start spamming PvE forum demanding 0.5 xp for them as they did on our topics

And sure why not I'll bite. We weren't demanding that you have 0.5 xp rates. We were asking you to stop spamming the forums demanding 2.0 xp rates. There is a distinction. The reality is that you basically already have 2.0 xp rates considering how easy it is to maintain Rested XP at all times. That's what, 1.75 xp rates? But you wanted 2.0 xp rates, which with the rested XP would essentially be what, 3.5 xp rates? Your topics were posted everywhere, in every forum, and you even hijacked multiple Announcement threads. Which is why you faced pushback, because people were tired of the spam.

And your response to all of that is to encourage more spam? Bold strategy cotton.

id say horde pretty much does dominate alliance lol. you seem to be new to this i tell you one thing about the history of PVP changes impact on PVE here-DOESNT EXIST HERE lol. Never happened in fact changes like making blind not a poison hurt alliance pretty hard or fantasies about shamans tanking NAXX. Its the other way around. if i remember correctly there was a long time like months where alliance couldnt clear KARA on the PVP server i think it was KARA because it was balanced around windfury as PVE server has crossfaction. haha. That tells you how much the turtle devs thought about PVP And every Patch is a dumb on pvp. its horrible. thorne gorge the windhorn BG. its frustrating. PVP needs proper gearing options from lvl 19 onwards. it is piss easy to get good weapons from dungeon quests or Drops in WC DM BFD and SFK. you have to be revered to get a medicore lvl 18 weapon from WSG and its not possible! I want to sit in BGs or do Wpvp, would love to have pvp focused zones like island of telabim or reworks to silithus and plaguelands and get proper rewards, chests, lockboxes, conquestpoints what ever-it can take time. i hate questing and also raiding im not gonna do it. What i want to do is to skip that content. Xp rates can stay as they are but bg xp rates should go up on pvp server. theres just no real point to go into bgs before 60 as it takes hours or even days to pop. no pop no xp no gear progress. people leave and play albion or lol.