Ninja Looting is ALLOWED! (with proof) (confirmed by GM)

[Burnett]

Again, you are falsely inferring he made a general statement about the scenario you presented in your last post.

You are insufferable.

You cannot be this dense. The GM gave the rules of the server that he has to adhere to, so obviously they would apply to the scenario I gave as well. You purposely being naive for the sake of being a lapdog is the only insufferable thing.

[Rathotdog]

Incorrect. You’re purposely ignoring the screenshot of the GM admitting that anyone can need on anything they want, regardless of whether it’s an upgrade for them or not. That is the problem, and it’s something EVERYONE who is against this post keeps intentionally ignoring, choosing instead to focus on the pants when they literally don't matter when it comes to what the GM confirmed about needing in dungeons.

That’s what you should be embarrassed about, honestly.

what? where does be says that? are you hallucinating?

The dps prot paladin rolled need on a dps/prot paladin item.

The GM said that's how the Group Loot system works, and he's right.

You Raven shills can go fuck themselves, stop trying to make Octo look bad, and go back to your shitty server where prot paladins can't roll on spell power items as to not offend some snowflakes like OP or you.

[Octotyy]

Again, you are falsely inferring he made a general statement about the scenario you presented in your last post.

You are insufferable.

You cannot be this dense. The GM gave the rules of the server that he has to adhere to, so obviously they would apply to the scenario I gave as well. You purposely being naive for the sake of being a lapdog is the only insufferable thing.

It wasn’t ninja looting, so it defaults to the ruling he stated. If it was an outright ninja loot, he would’ve said differently, such as the scenario you presented.

Sad person you are, trolling or not.

[Burnett]

You Raven shills can go fuck themselves, stop trying to make Octo look bad, and go back to your shitty server where prot paladins can't roll on spell power items as to not offend some snowflakes like OP or you.

Nice argument, just make up some bullshit because you realized that ninja looting is allowed by the rules given by the GM

[Burnett]

Again, you are falsely inferring he made a general statement about the scenario you presented in your last post.

You are insufferable.

You cannot be this dense. The GM gave the rules of the server that he has to adhere to, so obviously they would apply to the scenario I gave as well. You purposely being naive for the sake of being a lapdog is the only insufferable thing.

It wasn’t ninja looting, so it defaults to the ruling he stated. If it was an outright ninja loot, he would’ve said differently, such as the scenario you presented.

Sad person you are, trolling or not.

Do the rules he gave not apply to the scenario I presented, or is there something I'm missing? Are you saying GMs have different server rules depending on the scenario? Weird. You're so confident that they would change the server rules depending on the loot that it seems like a delusion brought on by your desperate need to defend them.

[Archivist]

I had a SFK run. Really nice vibes, everyone courteous towards one another.

The Enchanter of the group asked to need on anything if we all roll greed or if none of us needed anything. No objections.
Simple and organized and we all got everything we'd want or need.

Also can we stop pretending that Paladins don't benefit from Spell Damage or Intellect please?

[Burnett]

asked

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[Rtas]

This entire thread reminds of of the time I ate a 3 day ban on Classic because a Feral druid was mad he wasn't allowed to roll on CHT in MC

[Knifewrench]

He continuesly denied that its tank pants and started insulting+ tried to start a public witch hunt on forums. This is reason enough to not invite this people to your partys ruining your fun. Also they disbanded the party wich is rude af to the other people in party because they lost a roll on loot. Idc. Sad they dont play on pvp server, id get em camped. He had his chance to change stance instead he tried shift focus to GM instead of admitting his mistake.

You seem to be lacking in some cognitive capacity, so I'll address some of your repeatedly incorrect or untrue statements:
- I did not lose a roll, I am a warrior. I am reporting on this BS because it is unfair.
- The main problem isn't that the healer was robbed, the problem is that apparently you need to have a "previous agreement" not to ninja, confirmed by a GM, otherwise rolling for ANYTHING is a "player dispute".
- I'm willing to meet people in the middle and say it's a caster DPS shaman item, EVEN THEN, based on its stats, it should've gone to the healer without a doubt, because every other DPS wore cloth.
- The goalpost has been moved so many times it no longer resembles any sort of sense, the first argument is that it COULD be used by some prot paladins, once I showed that he is rolling with that as an excuse while fulfilling a DPS role, it suddenly became an all spec paladin item? LOL Guess mages gotta start looking out for all the ret/prot paladins needing on their cloth BIS.
- The party agreed on the aforementioned fact, and not only I but everyone else disbanded the party, I was one of the last to leave.
- How very funny of you to accuse me of trying to start a witch hunt when you said this:

tbh ur whole shitguild should be server blacklisted because u guys cant be trusted.

And this

Its a warrior that made the post he is freinds with the healer and mage and they all refused to continue the run after healer rudely needed on a item for not his spec and lost the roll, blacklist the whole shitter guild.
Warrior : spellhater
Healer paladin: cachorrito
Mage: tonkito

Again, the pants are irrelevant. We have TWO GMs admitting that you can roll on anything you can use, and it will be just labeled "player dispute" if someone reports you.
Once again, just for you, TWO GAME MASTERS have confirmed that you can roll on anything you can use. If you get reported, it will be labeled a PLAYER DISPUTE.

Would all of you agree if this item was Cloth instead of Mail?
Would all of you agree if a healer took a 2H sword with Strength because they can also incorporate damage into their rotation?
Hypocrisy...

At best, you're speaking nonsense. At worst, you're arguing in bad faith. At the very worst, I am arguing with some rudimentary AI, which I am beginning to suspect.

TL;DR If you're a cloth, leather, or mail caster... Look out for Retri / Prot paladins because according to these people, they should roll need as much as you. And if you wish to complain to a GM, you're out of luck, because that is a player dispute that should've been agreed on beforehand, before you got robbed.

And also Knifewrench is a cuckold lapdog.

ahhh ye the lvl 34 mail pants for ele shaman they cant wear till lvl 40.... bro ur justshowing ur cluelue and out witch hunting and moving goalposts. but seems its time u relvl or get a name change because u ruined ur name completely. never party with the following people, they will actively try witch hunt you on forums if u roll on items they need and disband the party if they lose a roll.
Warrior : spellhater
Healer paladin: cachorrito
Mage: tonkito
and no spelldmg item is tank item not heal item heal item has flat +healing so even then ur argument doesnt stand. if this was a 60 epic in raid with this stat devision no way in hell people let healer roll mainspec on this.

[Defiant]

You cannot be this dense. The GM gave the rules of the server that he has to adhere to, so obviously they would apply to the scenario I gave as well. You purposely being naive for the sake of being a lapdog is the only insufferable thing.

It wasn’t ninja looting, so it defaults to the ruling he stated. If it was an outright ninja loot, he would’ve said differently, such as the scenario you presented.

Sad person you are, trolling or not.

Do the rules he gave not apply to the scenario I presented, or is there something I'm missing? Are you saying GMs have different server rules depending on the scenario? Weird. You're so confident that they would change the server rules depending on the loot that it seems like a delusion brought on by your desperate need to defend them.

As multiple people have already stated, the GM is responding to your specific scenario. No ninja looting occurred, so beyond the ordinary usage of group loot you would then require a specific agreement. That's how most people are interpreting it. The only people not interpreting it that way are the ones who think ninja looting occurred when it clearly didn't. So you're already confused and misinformed to begin with-- so why would the rest of your argument hold any water?

And again like what throws me off is how you guys are so hellbent on shouting far and wide that there are no loot rules, with the OP explicitly telling people to roll need on everything, and you have essentially said the same thing yourself. Let's just assume you're correct-- and you're not. But assuming you are, why would you want to essentially promote the behavior by informing people that there are no rules-- which there are. That's why people are treating you the way they are.